Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
December 14, 2017 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,124
|
Paste/Roma-type Toms.
Have you grown any paste tomatoes that have pretty good flavor and good shelf life? I am looking one with the typical Roma characteristics of thick walls and not terribly juicy to try one next season. Determinate or ind. is fine.
-GG |
December 14, 2017 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2013
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 2,051
|
Check out Fred's Artisan varieties...Fire and Marzano Fire.
|
December 14, 2017 | #3 | |
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
Posts: 21,169
|
Quote:
Here are a few I have grown and IMO would satisfy your flavor and shelf like wants Opalka Dix Doight deNaples Heidi Ludmilla's Red Plum Mama Leone Martino's Roma Perito italian Prue Sarnowski Polish Plum Tony's Italian. No Costolutos and no San Marzano suggestions from me But the fact is that many no longer use paste types for sauce,etc. What they use are great tasting heart varieties which have few seeds and I would agree with that.Some use 1/2 hearts and 1/2 Paste types,then cook down slowly to the desired consistency you want. Carolyn
__________________
Carolyn |
|
December 14, 2017 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: France
Posts: 688
|
Deep Space
|
December 14, 2017 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Chicago IL
Posts: 857
|
Tried Perito Italian and it is fantastic in taste, also very good for paste qualities.
Also did Kenosha Paste- very productive, Damskie Palchiki- it is roma on steroids, very large plant. Italian plum was very productive as well. |
December 14, 2017 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Hudson Valley, NY, Zone 6a
Posts: 626
|
Rio Grande is quite dry and holds pretty well. I thought the juicier ones (Roma, San Marzano Nano, Napoli, etc.) had better taste, though.
|
December 16, 2017 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Alberta, Canada Z3a
Posts: 905
|
|
December 16, 2017 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MA/NH Border
Posts: 4,917
|
I've grown Oroma the last couple of years. They are small to medium sized, not dry, but not dripping with juice, taste is good for a paste, and they will hold for weeks after picking if kept in a cool location.
|
December 16, 2017 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 1,836
|
Opalka is a great paste tomato... If it's watered regularly... If not BER loves it.
I do like San Marzano when it's a good year for them... Short plants lots of tomatoes... Great sauce! I agree though, hearts are the way to go for sauce... |
December 17, 2017 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ontario
Posts: 600
|
I second Deep Space 9.
For hearts, I really like them all . Mazarini had a particularly nice taste.
__________________
Nicky nickysgarden.wordpress.com |
December 18, 2017 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,124
|
Certainly some interesting paste varieties here. Many I've never heard of before.
Perhaps I should add a couple myself. Both with excellent production, but I don't recall about shelf life. Super Marzano hybrid (Ind) and Plum Dandy hybrid (Det). Super Marzano was super-productive, and the only negative I recall was the tendency to drop tomatoes when ripe. I see that Tomatofest has a de-hybridized version of this, but I've never tried it. Plum Dandy is an earlier paste version from Dr. Gardner. Also excellent productivity, and came through to harvest with minimum foliage disease. I was really impressed with this one. -GG Last edited by Greatgardens; December 18, 2017 at 10:34 AM. |
December 18, 2017 | #12 | |
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a
Posts: 21,169
|
Quote:
Here's the link http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/tim...?pid=184181490 So now I know what he was doing before I ever met him when he was in NC breeding tomatoes.He wanted to use some heirloom tomatoes to improve the taste of his hybrids,I sent him many. Fusion also knew him and both of us would test grow for him his newest ones. Tom Wagner also wanted some seeds ( genes) from him but that was a different story since Tom was a professional breeder so had to sign some papers,I don't remember the rest. Each Xmas I would send him one of my Jacquie Lawson e-cards from England,the one he loved the best was a young boy dragging a sled up a slope with a violin case strapped to the sled.He'd get it out and play beautiful music. Randy asked me to please send him that one every year since he was also a violin player himself and folks brought to him ones that needed new strings and he fixed them,obviously no charge. When you send those e-cards the person can then get back to you and thank you.The last few years he never got back to me, direct e-mails alone made no difference. I knew he had health problems,many,one was blood clots,another were heart problems. After he retired from NC he would spend summers back at the farm where he was raised which was in VA and then go back down to NC for the winter. I didn't recognize Plum Dandy so did a Google search, and that's where I found this obit. For his newest varieties they had a contract with Bejo seeds in the Netherlands,they also had a placein WNYS, but for two years the growouts were lousy so Randy sent me BIG bags of seed for Plum Regal F1 Smarty F1 Mountain Magic F1 ......and asked if I would do a seed offer here at Tville, he was also a member here, I did so and folks here got seeds befor any commercial place did I know Smarty F1 ended up at Johnny's Seeds,I don't remember where the other two went but the one that was requested the most from my seed offer was Mountain Magic F! b/c of all the genes bred into it that quite a few folks wanted to use in their breeding projects as well to capture those genes. What I'm going to do is to link to this thread in the Off Topic Forum so all the registered members can see it and tell them where to start reading about Randy. Randy is just too important not to have folks here know about it. Just take his Mountain series for one outstanding accomplishment. I look at that picture of Dr. Gardner in the obit and see him in his office behind his oak desk on the first floor at Milne. Incredible. Carolyn
__________________
Carolyn |
|
December 20, 2017 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Greenville, South Carolina
Posts: 3,099
|
I grew Granadero last year and it blew me away. Very hard to kill, no BER, very dry and highly productive.
http://www.johnnyseeds.com/vegetable...sz=18&start=19 |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|