Sweet Pepper Research and Development - Page 5

rutabagaboy · July 12, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

July 12

Plant 1
Plant1-0712.jpg
Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.

Plant 2
Plant2-0712Flower.jpg
Flower, no fruit

Plant 3
Plant3-0712Flower.jpg
Flower, no fruit

Plant 4
Plant4-0712Purple.jpg
There are no less than FIVE fruits in this photo ranging in color from chartreuse to purple (you have to look for the purple ones in the shadows south-west of center). This plant is almost twice as tall as any of the other seven. What is not to like about this plant? (Taste, I suppose, but we'll see.)
Plant 5
Plant5-0712.jpg
Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.

Plant 6
Plant6-0712.jpg
Chartreuse fruit with purple five-o'clock shadow.

Plant 7
Plant7-0712LollipopPurple.jpg
Craig's surprise package - not like any other sweet pepper you'll find. Craig wins his sucker bet as the fruit did change from yellow to lollipop purple. I like the contrast of purple fruit on green plants.

Plant 8
Plant8-0712.jpg
Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.

hill60 · July 14, 2009

Its been a while since my last update. At this point plants are all healthy and growing well.

Picture 1, 2, 3 Islander F4 plant 8.2 vial 08-31
Picture 3, 4, 5 Tawny Port F2 vial 06-13
Picture 7, 8 Chocolate Bell F3 vial 08-7

The Chocolate Bells are not as far along as the others but are still doing well.

Rutabagaboy's descriptions of Islander, chartreuse to lollipop purple fits.

I've bagged some blossoms on each plant for saving seeds. All the plants are loaded with with blossoms and fruit starting at different stages.

Do I leave all the blossoms on the plants or would there be any benefit to removing some of them.

Hill60

rutabagaboy · July 15, 2009

The fruit on plant 8 (see last photo in Post 61) developed some sun scald, which gave me the opportunity to snag an early bite. It was sweet, no hint of heat.

rutabagaboy · July 26, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

July 25, 2009

Even though I've covered the plants with screening to mitigate the sun's intensity, these plants seem rather succeptible to sun scald. All fruit on all plants except Plant 7 have fruit quickly progressing from chartreuse to lolli-pop purple to ???. Only Plant 3 is challenging Plant 4 for the altitude record. Plant 4 is also the most productive (not including Plant 7) so far. All plants are healthy.

Plant 7 has the structure and fruit shape of a hot pepper. It's fruit goes from yellow to lolli-pop purple to ??? The plant and its fruit is more pleasing to me than many of the Hots I've grown as part of that project. Fat conical fruit arising from purple tinged white flowers on a green plant - nice contrasts.

Plant 1: 13" tall
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Plant 2: 13" tall
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Plant 3: 17" tall
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Plant 4: 19" tall
SP0725-4P.jpg

Plant 5: 12" tall
SP0725-5P.jpg

Plant 6: 14" tall
SP0725-6P.jpg

Plant 7: 13" tall
SP0725-7P.jpg~~~SP0725-7F.jpg

Plant 8: 12" tall
SP0725-8P.jpg

rutabagaboy · July 26, 2009

Islander

Second Season Status

Islander 6.1 F4 Vial 08-26
Planted four seeds, none germinated, 0%, wipeout for 2009.

Islander 6.2 F4 Vial 08-28
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.

Islander 8.2 F4 Vial 08-31
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.

rutabagaboy · August 9, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

Quote:

Originally Posted by nctomatoman

I would like to stabilize one of each. Suze found the purple to yellow. They seem tricky to get stable - still seeing variation at the F4, so let's see how these all end up and we can decide which ones I would like samples of. Of course, anyone participating in this is welcome to keep large samples of whatever they like to grow going forward or to share with others. Key aim of this little project is to do something fun and interesting.

August 9

Sometimes sun scald is a semi-good thing. At least, it hurries the rest of the fruit it has affected to turn ripe. In this instance the pepper (there wasn't much left of it that was untouched) turned a dark red. I was able to nibble a bit of the shoulders. It was a nice smooth sweet pepper.

**nctomatoman** · August 9, 2009

Yes, I've got a good amount of Sunscald on my fruit (small containers, dried out as well, deer hit some foliage). I think I've got riped or near ripes on all of my plants, but need to sort out my tomato menagerie before I can return to the hot (all have red fruit!) and sweet peppers. Argggh!

rutabagaboy · August 10, 2009

The eight plants grown from this batch of seed are planted in the ground and are well-watered via drip. The fruit of the seven sweet peppers is very prone to sun scald. I have a layer of translucent plastic and a layer of aluminum screening on the south side of these plants and they still get sun scald. The single inadvertent hot pepper cross is not affected in the least. (I took a small taste of that one the other day and its sweet parent did nothing to mitigate the pungency of the hot parent. I have a very low threshhold for hot peppers. In addition to the burning sensation, I get the hiccups. This tiny nibble set had me hiccupping up and down the garden paths - ugh! But it is a pretty plant.

rutabagaboy · August 20, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

August 19, 2009

All these peppers are planted in a community garden and all sweet peppers there that are not shaded by their leaves or by artificial means WILL get sun scald - guaranteed! However, each of these plants is protected from all direct sun with a layer of translucent plastic sheeting AND a layer of aluminum window screening (removed for the photos) and still the fruit gets sun scald.

Plant 1, notice withered part of fruit which is below a small patch of sun scald. Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
Islander-2.2-1-20090820.jpg

Plant 2 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
Islander-2.2-2-20090820.jpg

Plant 3 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
Islander-2.2-3-20090820.jpg

Plant 4, every harvested fruit on this plant has been removed prior to full color because every one suffered from from sun scald. The progression of fruit color on the plant is chartreuse to lollipop purple to a mixture of purple, yellow and red to red. The purple fruit on the left in the last photo is the sun-scalded fruit from plant 1. This is the tallest of the bunch and was the first start ripening. Seed has been collected.
Islander-2.2-4-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-4only-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-1and4b-20090820.jpg

Plant 5, this plant - at this point - seems undecided on its final color. Will it be red or gold?
Islander-2.2-5-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-5f-20090820.jpg

Plant 6, this plant appears to have chosen gold as its final color.
Islander-2.2-6-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-6f-20090820.jpg

Plant 7 (the hot cross)
Islander-2.2-7-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-7f1-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-7f2-20090820.jpg Though not a Habanero, this pepper is too hot for my comfort level.

Plant 8 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
Islander-2.2-8-20090820.jpg

rutabagaboy · August 20, 2009

Islander

Second Season Status August 20, 2009

Islander 6.1 F4 Vial 08-26
Planted four seeds, none germinated, 0%, wipeout for 2009.

Islander 6.2 F4 Vial 08-28
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.
Islander-6.2-1-20090820.jpg

Islander 8.2 F4 Vial 08-31
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.
Islander-8.2-1-20090820.jpg

These guys will have to really put the pedal to the metal if they are to have ripe fruit by first frost.

hill60 · August 21, 2009

My peppers are either ready to be picked or very close. I'm not sure at what stage peppers are picked when harvesting for seeds. With tomatoes they can be picked after first blush. Is this the same for peppers or do they need to fully mature on the plant.

Thanks Hill60

rutabagaboy · August 25, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

August 25, 2009

Craig, you'll enjoy this:

Plant 1: Still purple
Plant 2: Still purple
Plant 3: Still purple
Plant 4: Ripened to red, seed saved. Currently no fruit, no flowers
Plant 5: Seems to be ripening to red
Front viewSPPlant5-1-20090825.jpg Rear viewSPPlant5-2-20090825.jpg

Plant 6: Seems to be ripening to gold
Front viewSPPlant6-1-20090825.jpg Rear viewSPPlant6-2-20090825.jpg

Plant 7: Hot Cross, nice display
Plant 8: Still purple

rutabagaboy · August 30, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

August 30, 2009

Plant 1: Seems to be ripening to gold
SP1-20090830.jpg

Plant 2: Still purple
SP2-20090830.jpg

Plant 3: Seems to be ripening to gold
SP3-20090830.jpg

Plant 4: Ripened to red, seed saved. Currently has buds.
SP4-20090830.jpg

Plant 5: Seems to be ripening to red
SP5-20090830.jpg

Plant 6: Seems to be ripening to gold
SP6-20090830.jpg

Plant 7: Hot Cross, see all the pretty peppers - purple, yellow, orange and red.
SP7-1-20090830.jpg

Plant 8: Still mainly purple
SP8-20090830.jpg

rutabagaboy · September 1, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

September 1, 2009

Here's a twist. Two days ago I posted photos of the plants in this series and I noted that Plant 5 appeared to be turning red, while Plant 6 appeared to be turning Gold.

Well, today I took these photos which show that Plant 6 isn't stopping at Gold and could be going to red as well!

SP5-20090830.jpg~~~~~~~~~~SP6-20090830.jpg
Plant 5, August 30~~~~~~Plant 6, August 30

SP5&6-20090901.jpg SP5&6a-20090901.jpg
Plants 5 and 6, September 1

rutabagaboy · September 3, 2009

Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18

September 3

It is possible that the color transformation of Plants 5 and 6 is not complete, but I picked the ripest fruit of each today because the skin of the peppers is starting to wrinkle.

100_3912.jpg

Plant 5, Plant 6

As mentioned in the prior post, Plant 6 did not stop at gold. It went on to a very deep orange, almost red and almost as deep as Plant 5. Neither is as red as parts of the fruit on Plant 4 became. Plant 4's fruit did not ripen fully because I picked them early to prevent them from being completely consumed by sun scald. That plant is blooming again and will likely have another shot a fully ripe fruit.

100_3844.jpg

Plant 4

Seed now saved for Plants 4, 5 and 6.

All plant are now protected from direct sun by four layers of sheer drape material.

August 9, 2009	#67
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	Yes, I've got a good amount of Sunscald on my fruit (small containers, dried out as well, deer hit some foliage). I think I've got riped or near ripes on all of my plants, but need to sort out my tomato menagerie before I can return to the hot (all have red fruit!) and sweet peppers. Argggh! __________________ Craig

August 20, 2009	#69
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 August 19, 2009 All these peppers are planted in a community garden and all sweet peppers there that are not shaded by their leaves or by artificial means WILL get sun scald - guaranteed! However, each of these plants is protected from all direct sun with a layer of translucent plastic sheeting AND a layer of aluminum window screening (removed for the photos) and still the fruit gets sun scald. Plant 1, notice withered part of fruit which is below a small patch of sun scald. Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color. Islander-2.2-1-20090820.jpg Plant 2 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color. Islander-2.2-2-20090820.jpg Plant 3 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color. Islander-2.2-3-20090820.jpg Plant 4, every harvested fruit on this plant has been removed prior to full color because every one suffered from from sun scald. The progression of fruit color on the plant is chartreuse to lollipop purple to a mixture of purple, yellow and red to red. The purple fruit on the left in the last photo is the sun-scalded fruit from plant 1. This is the tallest of the bunch and was the first start ripening. Seed has been collected. Islander-2.2-4-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-4only-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-1and4b-20090820.jpg Plant 5, this plant - at this point - seems undecided on its final color. Will it be red or gold? Islander-2.2-5-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-5f-20090820.jpg Plant 6, this plant appears to have chosen gold as its final color. Islander-2.2-6-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-6f-20090820.jpg Plant 7 (the hot cross) Islander-2.2-7-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-7f1-20090820.jpg Islander-2.2-7f2-20090820.jpg Though not a Habanero, this pepper is too hot for my comfort level. Plant 8 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color. Islander-2.2-8-20090820.jpg Last edited by rutabagaboy; August 25, 2009 at 04:29 PM. Reason: Correct the date of photo

September 1, 2009	#74
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	I'm so confused... Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 September 1, 2009 Here's a twist. Two days ago I posted photos of the plants in this series and I noted that Plant 5 appeared to be turning red, while Plant 6 appeared to be turning Gold. Well, today I took these photos which show that Plant 6 isn't stopping at Gold and could be going to red as well! SP5-20090830.jpg~~~~~~~~~~SP6-20090830.jpg Plant 5, August 30~~~~~~Plant 6, August 30 SP5&6-20090901.jpg SP5&6a-20090901.jpg Plants 5 and 6, September 1

July 12, 2009	#61
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 July 12 Plant 1 Plant1-0712.jpg Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet. Plant 2 Plant2-0712Flower.jpg Flower, no fruit Plant 3 Plant3-0712Flower.jpg Flower, no fruit Plant 4 Plant4-0712Purple.jpg There are no less than FIVE fruits in this photo ranging in color from chartreuse to purple (you have to look for the purple ones in the shadows south-west of center). This plant is almost twice as tall as any of the other seven. What is not to like about this plant? (Taste, I suppose, but we'll see.) Plant 5 Plant5-0712.jpg Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet. Plant 6 Plant6-0712.jpg Chartreuse fruit with purple five-o'clock shadow. Plant 7 Plant7-0712LollipopPurple.jpg Craig's surprise package - not like any other sweet pepper you'll find. Craig wins his sucker bet as the fruit did change from yellow to lollipop purple. I like the contrast of purple fruit on green plants. Plant 8 Plant8-0712.jpg Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.

July 15, 2009	#63
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	The fruit on plant 8 (see last photo in Post 61) developed some sun scald, which gave me the opportunity to snag an early bite. It was sweet, no hint of heat.

July 26, 2009	#64
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 July 25, 2009 Even though I've covered the plants with screening to mitigate the sun's intensity, these plants seem rather succeptible to sun scald. All fruit on all plants except Plant 7 have fruit quickly progressing from chartreuse to lolli-pop purple to ???. Only Plant 3 is challenging Plant 4 for the altitude record. Plant 4 is also the most productive (not including Plant 7) so far. All plants are healthy. Plant 7 has the structure and fruit shape of a hot pepper. It's fruit goes from yellow to lolli-pop purple to ??? The plant and its fruit is more pleasing to me than many of the Hots I've grown as part of that project. Fat conical fruit arising from purple tinged white flowers on a green plant - nice contrasts. Plant 1: 13" tall SP0725-1P.jpg Plant 2: 13" tall SP0725-2P.jpg Plant 3: 17" tall SP0725-3P.jpg Plant 4: 19" tall SP0725-4P.jpg Plant 5: 12" tall SP0725-5P.jpg Plant 6: 14" tall SP0725-6P.jpg Plant 7: 13" tall SP0725-7P.jpg~~~SP0725-7F.jpg Plant 8: 12" tall SP0725-8P.jpg

August 10, 2009	#68
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	The eight plants grown from this batch of seed are planted in the ground and are well-watered via drip. The fruit of the seven sweet peppers is very prone to sun scald. I have a layer of translucent plastic and a layer of aluminum screening on the south side of these plants and they still get sun scald. The single inadvertent hot pepper cross is not affected in the least. (I took a small taste of that one the other day and its sweet parent did nothing to mitigate the pungency of the hot parent. I have a very low threshhold for hot peppers. In addition to the burning sensation, I get the hiccups. This tiny nibble set had me hiccupping up and down the garden paths - ugh! But it is a pretty plant.

August 21, 2009	#71
hill60 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Vancouver Island BC Posts: 122	My peppers are either ready to be picked or very close. I'm not sure at what stage peppers are picked when harvesting for seeds. With tomatoes they can be picked after first blush. Is this the same for peppers or do they need to fully mature on the plant. Thanks Hill60

August 25, 2009	#72
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 August 25, 2009 Craig, you'll enjoy this: Plant 1: Still purple Plant 2: Still purple Plant 3: Still purple Plant 4: Ripened to red, seed saved. Currently no fruit, no flowers Plant 5: Seems to be ripening to red Front viewSPPlant5-1-20090825.jpg Rear viewSPPlant5-2-20090825.jpg Plant 6: Seems to be ripening to gold Front viewSPPlant6-1-20090825.jpg Rear viewSPPlant6-2-20090825.jpg Plant 7: Hot Cross, nice display Plant 8: Still purple

August 30, 2009	#73
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 August 30, 2009 Plant 1: Seems to be ripening to gold SP1-20090830.jpg Plant 2: Still purple SP2-20090830.jpg Plant 3: Seems to be ripening to gold SP3-20090830.jpg Plant 4: Ripened to red, seed saved. Currently has buds. SP4-20090830.jpg Plant 5: Seems to be ripening to red SP5-20090830.jpg Plant 6: Seems to be ripening to gold SP6-20090830.jpg Plant 7: Hot Cross, see all the pretty peppers - purple, yellow, orange and red. SP7-1-20090830.jpg Plant 8: Still mainly purple SP8-20090830.jpg

September 3, 2009	#75
rutabagaboy Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Near Sacramento, California Posts: 322	Islander plant 2.2, F4 seed, vial 08-18 September 3 It is possible that the color transformation of Plants 5 and 6 is not complete, but I picked the ripest fruit of each today because the skin of the peppers is starting to wrinkle. 100_3912.jpg Plant 5, Plant 6 As mentioned in the prior post, Plant 6 did not stop at gold. It went on to a very deep orange, almost red and almost as deep as Plant 5. Neither is as red as parts of the fruit on Plant 4 became. Plant 4's fruit did not ripen fully because I picked them early to prevent them from being completely consumed by sun scald. That plant is blooming again and will likely have another shot a fully ripe fruit. 100_3844.jpg Plant 4 Seed now saved for Plants 4, 5 and 6. All plant are now protected from direct sun by four layers of sheer drape material.