Peas for 2008 - Page 3

Miss_Mudcat · March 20, 2008

I only grow dwarf cultivars, I HATE fooling with pea fences. I'd rather deal with a tangled mass of pea tendrils. And, I only grow edible-podded sugar peas. I don't have time to shell them and we all prefer to eat shell and all. So, this year I am growing Sugar Ann and Sugar Star.

Do you all innoculate? I have, but I'm still not sure if it makes a big difference.

shelleybean · March 20, 2008

annecros, I have not heard of any pea more heat tolerant that Wando. If you want a shelling pea, I think that may be your best choice.

Miss Mudcat, I have always used inoculant. Since I've never done without it, I have no way to compare. I figure it's pretty cheap and I can use it on both the peas and beans, so why not? My peas are coming along really nicely now. They don't get as much sun on this side of the garden as they did last year but they're still doing pretty well.

Ruth_10 · March 22, 2008

I have used innoculant once or twice in the past, but don't anymore. Can't say I can tell the difference, but I haven't done a side-by-side test. It's my understanding that once you've grown legumes in an area, you shouldn't need innoculant. I can usually trace good crop/bad crop with peas or beans to the weather.

annecros · March 22, 2008

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Originally Posted by shelleybean

annecros, I have not heard of any pea more heat tolerant that Wando. If you want a shelling pea, I think that may be your best choice.

Miss Mudcat, I have always used inoculant. Since I've never done without it, I have no way to compare. I figure it's pretty cheap and I can use it on both the peas and beans, so why not? My peas are coming along really nicely now. They don't get as much sun on this side of the garden as they did last year but they're still doing pretty well.

Thanks so much, Wando it is. It will be interesting to see if I can produce a mess of this type of pea in this climate.

Southern peas, we just drop them in the middle of a hard road and come back two months later!

The innoculant, I think it depends upon the native soil. If you have cold winters, I would think it would help. I have had no problem with any pea or bean thriving and producing plenty - but that's my soil. YMMV and all that.

If one used innoculant in one season, would it hold over to the next? I don't know.

Ruth_10 · March 23, 2008

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Originally Posted by American_Gardener

Ruth.. I did a side by side with the innoculant a couple years back on sugar snap.

There was a huge difference! With all other conditions and factors the same.. the ones that were innoculated were twice as big and twice as productive.

As for favorites.. i love most all snap peas, but after last seasons trials with over 100 varieties.. Chinese snow pea is now my new favorite.

Dave

So here's the experiment that would have been informative: the following year, you would have switched--the spot that had no innoculant would receive innoculant, and the spot that had received innoculant would get none. You would have to do this for several years to average out random variation.

gardengalrn · March 25, 2008

I put my peas in yesterday: Mr Big, Green Arrow, Eclipse, Lincoln and Super Sugar Snap. I innoculated mine since this is a new garden. I have done that in the past and it seemed to improve my yield but I'm not sure if it were the innoculant or weather.

piegirl · March 25, 2008

I planted laxton's progress, oregon giant snow pea and sugar snap about two weeks ago. No rain/snow for weeks so yesterday I connected up the hoses. Green arrow always performed well and laxton's did just as well last year. The snow and sugar snaps don't seem to set as many but are wonderful. Kent and Kathy - forget Alaska - they were small and hard, same for wando - smaller pods and peas are rather tough. I just need more land and full blazing sun. Piegirl

shelleybean · March 26, 2008

Both Amish Snap and Russian Sugar are growing well. I think peas are among the prettiest of the vegetable plants but these Russian Sugar vines are going to be gorgeous when they start to bloom. The stems are bright purple and it looks great with the green leaves. I believe the blossoms are supposed to be a shade of purple, as well. Can't wait to see them!

shelleybean · April 25, 2008

Amish Snap is blooming now. Still waiting on Russian Sugar. I should have some pods soon though.

Ruth_10 · April 26, 2008

My Sugar Snap, Sugar Ann, and Casselode peas are coming along but still a long way from blossoming. This cold spring (more rain and cold weather this weekend) have slowed them down considerably.

gardengalrn · April 28, 2008

My peas finally germinated and are growing very slowly. We are still having some pretty cold days and nights. The only thing growing like crazy is the grass and weeds out there. Peas are really my favorite spring veggie, raw right out of the garden. I can't wait and hope yields are good.

shelleybean · May 9, 2008

We had the first Amish Snap peas of 2008 last night. They were as good as I remember from last year. I have them growing side by side with the Russian Sugar. Amish Snap is taller and just a tad earlier. I'll start picking Russian Sugar in the next few days. Sounds corny but I love looking out my bedroom window in the morning and seeing the white flowers of the AS and the purple blooms on the RS. They're so pretty.

igarden · May 14, 2008

around 19+ years ago, when we moved here in eastern Washington, we purchased some shell pea seed from Johnny's called 'Multistar'. they were tall plants on a trellis and in the dead heat of summer, they produced 13+ peas in big pods, throughout the summer till fall. we have been trying to find those seeds again, as Johnny's doesn't sell them anymore. if anyone has heard of them or knows where they can be purchased, please let me know...thanks.

last year we planted 'Mayfair' shell pea seed from Peters Seed Research. in June we were extremely unusually hot, 100's!!!, and these peas produced right through the heat, all summer and into the fall. they were semi-tall plants with 8 - 9 large peas in the 5+ inch pods. very sweet and excellent frozen and home canned. needless to say, we have planted these again here this year and will save seed!

Miss_Mudcat · May 20, 2008

My first sowing germinated at about 10%; second at about 20%, third at about 95% and 4th at about 20%. It will still be another 3 weeks or so before I can harvest any peas.

This rainy, cloudy, cold and dreary weather is holding everything back.... except lettuce. It is fabulous!

piegirl · May 21, 2008

I - I am so glad to learn that there are everbearing peas. My mother (age 87) always talked about these peas that produced all summer by the dishpan full. After a number of searches and a post or two at GW, no one knew of these. Even better that they do well high heat! How can I get ahold these seeds? I would love to try them. Do they need to be planted in early spring like regular peas? Many of mine were wiped out today - tree removal near door that accidently fell in my yard wiping out my cherry tree, the peas, and many tomato plants. Let me know on the seeds! Piegirl

March 20, 2008	#31
Miss_Mudcat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Georgia Posts: 366	I only grow dwarf cultivars, I HATE fooling with pea fences. I'd rather deal with a tangled mass of pea tendrils. And, I only grow edible-podded sugar peas. I don't have time to shell them and we all prefer to eat shell and all. So, this year I am growing Sugar Ann and Sugar Star. Do you all innoculate? I have, but I'm still not sure if it makes a big difference. __________________ Farmers don't wear watches; they work until the job is done!

March 20, 2008	#32
shelleybean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,648	annecros, I have not heard of any pea more heat tolerant that Wando. If you want a shelling pea, I think that may be your best choice. Miss Mudcat, I have always used inoculant. Since I've never done without it, I have no way to compare. I figure it's pretty cheap and I can use it on both the peas and beans, so why not? My peas are coming along really nicely now. They don't get as much sun on this side of the garden as they did last year but they're still doing pretty well. __________________ Michele

March 22, 2008	#33
Ruth_10 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MO z6a near St. Louis Posts: 1,349	I have used innoculant once or twice in the past, but don't anymore. Can't say I can tell the difference, but I haven't done a side-by-side test. It's my understanding that once you've grown legumes in an area, you shouldn't need innoculant. I can usually trace good crop/bad crop with peas or beans to the weather. __________________ --Ruth Some say the glass half-full. Others say the glass is half-empty. To an engineer, it’s twice as big as it needs to be.

March 25, 2008	#36
gardengalrn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas, zone 5 Posts: 524	I put my peas in yesterday: Mr Big, Green Arrow, Eclipse, Lincoln and Super Sugar Snap. I innoculated mine since this is a new garden. I have done that in the past and it seemed to improve my yield but I'm not sure if it were the innoculant or weather. __________________ ~Lori "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." -Abraham Lincoln

March 26, 2008	#38
shelleybean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,648	Both Amish Snap and Russian Sugar are growing well. I think peas are among the prettiest of the vegetable plants but these Russian Sugar vines are going to be gorgeous when they start to bloom. The stems are bright purple and it looks great with the green leaves. I believe the blossoms are supposed to be a shade of purple, as well. Can't wait to see them! __________________ Michele

March 25, 2008	#37
piegirl Tomatovillian™ Honoree Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 791	I planted laxton's progress, oregon giant snow pea and sugar snap about two weeks ago. No rain/snow for weeks so yesterday I connected up the hoses. Green arrow always performed well and laxton's did just as well last year. The snow and sugar snaps don't seem to set as many but are wonderful. Kent and Kathy - forget Alaska - they were small and hard, same for wando - smaller pods and peas are rather tough. I just need more land and full blazing sun. Piegirl

April 25, 2008	#39
shelleybean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,648	Amish Snap is blooming now. Still waiting on Russian Sugar. I should have some pods soon though. __________________ Michele

April 26, 2008	#40
Ruth_10 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: MO z6a near St. Louis Posts: 1,349	My Sugar Snap, Sugar Ann, and Casselode peas are coming along but still a long way from blossoming. This cold spring (more rain and cold weather this weekend) have slowed them down considerably. __________________ --Ruth Some say the glass half-full. Others say the glass is half-empty. To an engineer, it’s twice as big as it needs to be.

April 28, 2008	#41
gardengalrn Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas, zone 5 Posts: 524	My peas finally germinated and are growing very slowly. We are still having some pretty cold days and nights. The only thing growing like crazy is the grass and weeds out there. Peas are really my favorite spring veggie, raw right out of the garden. I can't wait and hope yields are good. __________________ ~Lori "Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be." -Abraham Lincoln

May 9, 2008	#42
shelleybean Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 2,648	We had the first Amish Snap peas of 2008 last night. They were as good as I remember from last year. I have them growing side by side with the Russian Sugar. Amish Snap is taller and just a tad earlier. I'll start picking Russian Sugar in the next few days. Sounds corny but I love looking out my bedroom window in the morning and seeing the white flowers of the AS and the purple blooms on the RS. They're so pretty. __________________ Michele

May 14, 2008	#43
igarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: eastern washington Posts: 53	around 19+ years ago, when we moved here in eastern Washington, we purchased some shell pea seed from Johnny's called 'Multistar'. they were tall plants on a trellis and in the dead heat of summer, they produced 13+ peas in big pods, throughout the summer till fall. we have been trying to find those seeds again, as Johnny's doesn't sell them anymore. if anyone has heard of them or knows where they can be purchased, please let me know...thanks. last year we planted 'Mayfair' shell pea seed from Peters Seed Research. in June we were extremely unusually hot, 100's!!!, and these peas produced right through the heat, all summer and into the fall. they were semi-tall plants with 8 - 9 large peas in the 5+ inch pods. very sweet and excellent frozen and home canned. needless to say, we have planted these again here this year and will save seed!

May 20, 2008	#44
Miss_Mudcat Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Georgia Posts: 366	My first sowing germinated at about 10%; second at about 20%, third at about 95% and 4th at about 20%. It will still be another 3 weeks or so before I can harvest any peas. This rainy, cloudy, cold and dreary weather is holding everything back.... except lettuce. It is fabulous! __________________ Farmers don't wear watches; they work until the job is done!

May 21, 2008	#45
piegirl Tomatovillian™ Honoree Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lincoln, NE Posts: 791	I - I am so glad to learn that there are everbearing peas. My mother (age 87) always talked about these peas that produced all summer by the dishpan full. After a number of searches and a post or two at GW, no one knew of these. Even better that they do well high heat! How can I get ahold these seeds? I would love to try them. Do they need to be planted in early spring like regular peas? Many of mine were wiped out today - tree removal near door that accidently fell in my yard wiping out my cherry tree, the peas, and many tomato plants. Let me know on the seeds! Piegirl