Cherry thoughts

Raymondo · March 15, 2008

I'm going to try a few new cherries next season. I was wondering what T'villians thought of the following:

Cerise verte (Solana Seeds selection from Aunt Ruby's German Cherry which is itself a selection from Aunt Ruby's German Green)
Isis Candy
Tigerette

These will be for the local market along with Black Cherry, Burwood Prize and Snow White.

Also, any suggestions for a tasty pink cherry?

cdntomato · March 15, 2008

Ray, if you do a thread search here, you'll find my request for same. A breeding project was earmarked as a result.

Pearly Pink is aesthetically beautiful but with bla taste. Rose Quartz and the Multiflora version were also tauted but hybrid and availability issues (don't bother with Solana's Rose Quartz) came into play. And so it goes...

Give me a project then. Like Large Bulgarian Pink x ?
You can see it/them when you visit this summer.

Your tomato playmate in the NH,
Jennifer

Raymondo · March 15, 2008

I wondered as much. Still, I'd like something pink to add. Mixed cherries command a good price at the local food co-op.

**nctomatoman** · March 15, 2008

I've had no luck with Isis - tried it three times, each time a disease prone, low yielding (for a cherry tomato - trusses quite small, low blossom number)...but there are those who love it!

Odd how OP Pink cherries seem to be in short supply. I don't mind Rose Quartz multiflora, but it sure isn't Sungold (it is wildly productive, however, and nicely pink).

Madara is a very nice yellow cherry that is worth a try - could be somewhat obscure (I've not grown it in years).

patty_b · March 15, 2008

What price per pound do you usually get for cherries?
I have started this collection that have been heavy producers in the past.....
Anna Aasa
Amish Salad
Sweet Thing Grape
Camp Joy
Josefina
Dr. Carolyn
Snow White
Black cherry

Raymondo · March 15, 2008

I get around $AU8.00 per kilo (about $US3.50 per lb). I can get better by selling to restaurants but it's a small town! Thanks for the list. I'll look into the ones I don't know.

Madara, certainly obscure for me. I've never heard of it. I'll look into that one.

Colours and potential varieties:

Red: Burwood Prize - old Australian cultivar. PL, productive, good taste but nothing special
Pink: Dr Carolyn Pink, Wickline Cherry
Yellow: Galina's Yellow - one of my favourite cherries
Ivory: Snow White - another favorite
Orange: Katinka Cherry - Is this more yellow than orange?
Green: Green Doctors, Cerise verte
Bi-colour red/yellow: Isis Candy
Striped: Tigerette
Black: Black Cherry, Brown Berry

feralcatfriend · March 15, 2008

Why not Tommy Toes for a red? It is prolific and has a nice burst of big tomato flavor.

It really is satisfying to have a rainbow of cherry tomatoes--the bowl of cherry tomatoes in my avatar, from the yellow ones at the top, include the following: Galina, Isis Candy, Matt's Wild Cherry, Black Cherry, and Tommy Toes (next to Galina).

Cynthia

goodwin · March 15, 2008

I grow Gardener's Delight (Sugar Lump), Snow White, Aunt Ruby's, Black Cherry and some of the others for market. Isis Candy produces well for me in flushes every 10 days or so. By the end of the season it can develop unmatched flavor. Rosalita is what I am growing for a pink cherry. I 'm also trying Cherry Brandywine this year. The climate here is dry and we are at a high elevation, so your results might differ.
Good gardening!

Suze · March 16, 2008

I should say by way of clarifying further comments, most cherry types underwhelm me, and after the season has wrapped up, I am almost always left wondering why oh why I bothered to waste a few extra spaces on them.

My two favorites on taste alone are Sungold and Black Cherry by far, and after all the ones I have tried, I still feel the same way.

Isis Candy? On the sweet side, but not bad at all. Tends to be shy on production, relatively speaking, for cherry types, IME. Probably in the top 15 or so for taste of all the cherry types I have grown. Btw/side note, I grew Gajo de Melon last year and saw no discernable difference in taste, plant habit, production, or appearance of fruit.

Good pink? Hmmm, I like Dr. Carolyn Pink (it was a winner at SETTFest, btw - several folks just loved it), and also Sweet Quartz (F1) is pretty good if you like 'sweet'. The Sweet Quartz is really something else in terms of production and general vigor -- I will definitely grow it again. Another potentially interesting pink (lg cherry, one ounce or so) is Weeping Tom. Sweet and tasty, also interesting because it is PL and pear/bell shaped. Would make for a 'cute'/attractive market variety as well.

Yet another cherry type I like is Snow White (sweet, but not bland, very nice). Reds I think are pretty good would include Mexico Midget and Gardener's Delight.

cdntomato · March 16, 2008

Suze, thanks for the correction on the hybrid. Sweet Quartz is the F1 and Rose Quartz is the supposed OP version. Solana's RQ was decidedly not. Nor was their Sungold OP.

For the past few years, I've been starting cherries for farming friends in the area who do extremely well with mixed pint and quart boxes of OPs.

Yellow: Galina's always plus Yellow Pear, Ildi
'White': Snow White, Ghost
Bi-col: Isis Candy (Bi-color cherry, with luck, this year)
Green: Green Grape (Green Doctors this year too, maybe Aunt Ruby's GG)
Orange: Mini Orange (but I've orange crosses on the way too)
Red: Amish Salad, Sweet Million OP (must change name, erg..), Chadwick's, Chelsea Gem (OP version of Sweet Chelsea F1--an exact match in my side-by-sides 2 years running!!), Red Pear
Purple-Black: Black Cherry (BrownBerry this year too)

Thanks for the other suggestions, Madara and Tigerette, particularly.

Jennifer

Tania · March 16, 2008

Mini Rose is another great pink cherry. http://t-garden.homeip.net/mwiki/index.php/Mini_Rose

Here is some info about Madara: http://t-garden.homeip.net/mwiki/index.php/Madara

cdntomato · March 16, 2008

Funny my forgetting that one since I'm the one who put it in circulation, eh?

Thanks, Tania. On my list again to grow this year. My memory draws a blank on it.

Jennifer

Lomatia · March 16, 2008

This year I grew ARGG Cherry, Green Grape both of which did tend to split a bit, Amish Salad which is always good, Black Cherry no comment needed there and Galapagos small but flavoursome. Will grow them again in 08/09.

Ray, I have found Black Plum, whilst not a cherry, to be a big yielder and good looker. Might be a good seller for you.

cdntomato · March 16, 2008

I just remembered, courtesy R. Kraft's tomato porn site, that I put into circulation another pink cherry, Brandysweet Plum. Not sure how it managed to get to Reinhard, but whatever. I consider it a bit oversized for a true cherry, a two bite rather than a single bite. Pink Ping Pong fits a similar bill.

Jennifer, slowly getting back into the swing of things, but slowly...

Tania · March 16, 2008

Yes, Brandysweet Plum! How could I forget? ;-)

I am growing it this year, seeds from D. who got it from you Jennifer.

I am very excited.

March 15, 2008	#1
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	Cherry thoughts I'm going to try a few new cherries next season. I was wondering what T'villians thought of the following: Cerise verte (Solana Seeds selection from Aunt Ruby's German Cherry which is itself a selection from Aunt Ruby's German Green) Isis Candy Tigerette These will be for the local market along with Black Cherry, Burwood Prize and Snow White. Also, any suggestions for a tasty pink cherry? __________________ Ray

March 15, 2008	#2
cdntomato Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Kingston, Ontario Posts: 554	Ray, if you do a thread search here, you'll find my request for same. A breeding project was earmarked as a result. Pearly Pink is aesthetically beautiful but with bla taste. Rose Quartz and the Multiflora version were also tauted but hybrid and availability issues (don't bother with Solana's Rose Quartz) came into play. And so it goes... Give me a project then. Like Large Bulgarian Pink x ? You can see it/them when you visit this summer. Your tomato playmate in the NH, Jennifer __________________ There is no sincerer love than the love of food. -George Bernard Shaw

March 15, 2008	#3
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	I wondered as much. Still, I'd like something pink to add. Mixed cherries command a good price at the local food co-op. __________________ Ray

March 15, 2008	#4
nctomatoman Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hendersonville, NC zone 7 Posts: 10,385	I've had no luck with Isis - tried it three times, each time a disease prone, low yielding (for a cherry tomato - trusses quite small, low blossom number)...but there are those who love it! Odd how OP Pink cherries seem to be in short supply. I don't mind Rose Quartz multiflora, but it sure isn't Sungold (it is wildly productive, however, and nicely pink). Madara is a very nice yellow cherry that is worth a try - could be somewhat obscure (I've not grown it in years). __________________ Craig

March 15, 2008	#6
Raymondo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Saumarez Ponds, NSW, Australia Posts: 946	I get around $AU8.00 per kilo (about $US3.50 per lb). I can get better by selling to restaurants but it's a small town! Thanks for the list. I'll look into the ones I don't know. Madara, certainly obscure for me. I've never heard of it. I'll look into that one. Colours and potential varieties: Red: Burwood Prize - old Australian cultivar. PL, productive, good taste but nothing special Pink: Dr Carolyn Pink, Wickline Cherry Yellow: Galina's Yellow - one of my favourite cherries Ivory: Snow White - another favorite Orange: Katinka Cherry - Is this more yellow than orange? Green: Green Doctors, Cerise verte Bi-colour red/yellow: Isis Candy Striped: Tigerette Black: Black Cherry, Brown Berry __________________ Ray

March 15, 2008	#5
patty_b Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 487	What price per pound do you usually get for cherries? I have started this collection that have been heavy producers in the past..... Anna Aasa Amish Salad Sweet Thing Grape Camp Joy Josefina Dr. Carolyn Snow White Black cherry

March 15, 2008	#7
feralcatfriend Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bel Air, MD USA Posts: 42	Why not Tommy Toes for a red? It is prolific and has a nice burst of big tomato flavor. It really is satisfying to have a rainbow of cherry tomatoes--the bowl of cherry tomatoes in my avatar, from the yellow ones at the top, include the following: Galina, Isis Candy, Matt's Wild Cherry, Black Cherry, and Tommy Toes (next to Galina). Cynthia Last edited by feralcatfriend; March 15, 2008 at 11:32 PM. Reason: To add info

March 15, 2008	#8
goodwin Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Espanola, New Mexico Posts: 606	I grow Gardener's Delight (Sugar Lump), Snow White, Aunt Ruby's, Black Cherry and some of the others for market. Isis Candy produces well for me in flushes every 10 days or so. By the end of the season it can develop unmatched flavor. Rosalita is what I am growing for a pink cherry. I 'm also trying Cherry Brandywine this year. The climate here is dry and we are at a high elevation, so your results might differ. Good gardening!

March 16, 2008	#9
Suze Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 3,027	I should say by way of clarifying further comments, most cherry types underwhelm me, and after the season has wrapped up, I am almost always left wondering why oh why I bothered to waste a few extra spaces on them. My two favorites on taste alone are Sungold and Black Cherry by far, and after all the ones I have tried, I still feel the same way. Isis Candy? On the sweet side, but not bad at all. Tends to be shy on production, relatively speaking, for cherry types, IME. Probably in the top 15 or so for taste of all the cherry types I have grown. Btw/side note, I grew Gajo de Melon last year and saw no discernable difference in taste, plant habit, production, or appearance of fruit. Good pink? Hmmm, I like Dr. Carolyn Pink (it was a winner at SETTFest, btw - several folks just loved it), and also Sweet Quartz (F1) is pretty good if you like 'sweet'. The Sweet Quartz is really something else in terms of production and general vigor -- I will definitely grow it again. Another potentially interesting pink (lg cherry, one ounce or so) is Weeping Tom. Sweet and tasty, also interesting because it is PL and pear/bell shaped. Would make for a 'cute'/attractive market variety as well. Yet another cherry type I like is Snow White (sweet, but not bland, very nice). Reds I think are pretty good would include Mexico Midget and Gardener's Delight.

March 16, 2008	#11
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	Mini Rose is another great pink cherry. http://t-garden.homeip.net/mwiki/index.php/Mini_Rose Here is some info about Madara: http://t-garden.homeip.net/mwiki/index.php/Madara __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase

March 16, 2008	#13
Lomatia Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 147	This year I grew ARGG Cherry, Green Grape both of which did tend to split a bit, Amish Salad which is always good, Black Cherry no comment needed there and Galapagos small but flavoursome. Will grow them again in 08/09. Ray, I have found Black Plum, whilst not a cherry, to be a big yielder and good looker. Might be a good seller for you.