Quarter Century

[mdvpc]

This is one of my favorite varieties. Does very well for me in containers in the desert. Its compact, about 4 feet tall usually for me. Wonderful tasting fruit every time I have grown it. Here is a photo taken yesterday, May 8. No flower buds yet, its still quite small. Its usually mid-season.

[Gobig_or_Gohome_toms]

I did a quick google search and did not find a ton of information about this tomato I did see it for sale at Reimer seeds. Is it OP? I am interested in it due to the size of plant and tomato and the fact that it is heat tollerant.

[mdvpc]

I think Sandhill has it, know Burpee has it. I have grown seed both from Burpee and from Craig. It was misidentified in Carolyn's book as Matchless, Austin Strain, but it is clearly Quarter Century. It is op for sure.

[Gobig_or_Gohome_toms]

I'll have to look at Carolyn's book when I get home as well as my seed catalogs. I think this one might be going on next years list.

[mdvpc]

I quickly checked Burpee online and didnt see it. Sandhill has it for sure.

[velikipop]

I bought seed from Sandhill and will be growing it this year. Glad to hear it is worth growing and will do well in a container. How big of a conatiner do you grow it in? If I do put it in a container it will be a 7 gallon one.

Alex

[mdvpc]

I have 3 plants in a 15 gallon container. I have grown it in a 5 gallon container before and it did well.

[velikipop]

Michael.
Excellent...thanks.

[korney19]

I haven't grown it in about 5-6 years but here it is with some other stuff...



Quarter Century is the same as Matchless in Carolyn's book...

Here's from Burpees Heirloom only catalog, with early 1900's artwork, as well as a description about it being found again mistakenly under a different name...

[carolyn137]

Quarter Century is the same as Matchless in Carolyn's book

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Mark, I don't think you read the post I did above about what I called Matchless in my book that turned out to be QC and how that came about and how it differs from Matchless, who I also subsequently grew and also described in that post.

Also, in the Burpee blurb where it says QC was almost lost and was found in a private collection, well, I spoke to that also in my post above and that private collection was Glenn Drowns at Sandhill.

[korney19]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Quarter Century is the same as Matchless in Carolyn's book

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Mark, I don't think you read the post I did above about what I called Matchless in my book that turned out to be QC and how that came about and how it differs from Matchless, who I also subsequently grew and also described in that post.

Also, in the Burpee blurb where it says QC was almost lost and was found in a private collection, well, I spoke to that also in my post above and that private collection was Glenn Drowns at Sandhill.

I'm not sure where you were/are going with this, but I'm just rolling over and will be back asleep probably before you reply... the only thing I didn't mention was that you were wrong in your book about it being Matchless, (didn't know until waaaay after the book was published), what you in effect were doing was describing Quarter Century not Matchless [Austin Strain] & Craig said Matchless was believed to have been regular leaf and not rugose like QC, etc.

But all in all, a good lesson was learned hopefully by all, which is "Know what you grow!"

[carolyn137]

Quarter Century is the same as Matchless in Carolyn's book...

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....is what you wrote in your post Mark, which to some might be confusing, and that's why I wrote my reply to you.

And I also explained in that above post I guess you didn't read that Craig did get the RL true Matchless out of the USDA seeds, there were two different accessions, and it is RL with a small red fruit that was nothing special IMO.

Both accessions had mixed seeds of QC and Matchless and it's no wonder that several folks, including Dave Austin was confused, as well as Glenn Drowns and then myself.

Never believe what a pack of seeds says unless you know all the basic traits is what I say to everyone, but back in the early 90's that wasn't done by others with these same accessions and wasn't done by me independently when I included it in my book, sadly, I just believed what I got as Matchless was Matchless, and never questioned it, which was wrong.

Hope you had some good dreams when you rolled over and went back to sleep. I had a clear and disturbing dream last night where I was asked to teach a Music Appreciation Course, of all things, to replace a teacher who couldn't do it. And it got worse than that and was very complicated. I still remember all of it this morning, which doesn't often happen to me with dreams.

[korney19]

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Quarter Century is the same as Matchless in Carolyn's book...

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....is what you wrote in your post Mark, which to some might be confusing, and that's why I wrote my reply to you.

And I also explained in that above post I guess you didn't read that Craig did get the RL true Matchless out of the USDA seeds, there were two different accessions, and it is RL with a small red fruit that was nothing special IMO.

Both accessions had mixed seeds of QC and Matchless and it's no wonder that several folks, including Dave Austin was confused, as well as Glenn Drowns and then myself.

Never believe what a pack of seeds says unless you know all the basic traits is what I say to everyone, but back in the early 90's that wasn't done by others with these same accessions and wasn't done by me independently when I included it in my book, sadly, I just believed what I got as Matchless was Matchless, and never questioned it, which was wrong.

Hope you had some good dreams when you rolled over and went back to sleep. I had a clear and disturbing dream last night where I was asked to teach a Music Appreciation Course, of all things, to replace a teacher who couldn't do it. And it got worse than that and was very complicated. I still remember all of it this morning, which doesn't often happen to me with dreams.

Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse... what I meant is... oh, never mind, but [everyone] take your book and go to the Matchless Austin page and use a black Sharpie and cross out Matchless Austin and write in [Burpee's] Quarter Century! There, fixed! Oh, and, YES, I did read the earlier post (more than once actually.)

My Top 2 seed rules are:

1. Always oversow--you'll be less disappointed having to snip extras than having to sow all over again if they didn't germinate. Plus you can often find any rogues then, not 100+ days later.

2. If you trade seeds, the recipient should grow the seeds first to make sure they are what they should be before passing on any extras! I didn't include so many extras for you to trade, but for #1 above! (Daniels is an excellent example.)