My list..

gssgarden · January 11, 2016

30 plants in raised beds and 2 Dwarves.

Gonna make a LOT of sauce this year!!

Reds

Shannon's - 4
Wes
Giant Belgium
Dester
Arkansas Traveler
George Detsikas Italian Red
Goliath
Early Goliath
Big Beef
Cuostralee
Box Car Willie

Cherries

Mexico Midget

Greens

My Mystery Green - I call it Gregory's Green for now
Green Giant
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Grub's Mystery Green

Orange

KBX
Orange Minsk
Orange Jazz
Chef's Choice Orange

Pineapple Pig
Lucky Cross

Blacks

Cherokee Purple - of course!
Carbon
Cherokee Carbon
Indian Stripe
Pink Berkley Tie Dye
Large Barred Boar

Gonna be busy!

Greg

**carolyn137** · January 11, 2016

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Originally Posted by gssgarden

30 plants in raised beds and 2 Dwarves.

Gonna make a LOT of sauce this year!!

Reds

Shannon's - 4
Wes
Giant Belgium
Dester
Arkansas Traveler
George Detsikas Italian Red
Goliath
Early Goliath
Big Beef
Cuostralee
Box Car Willie

Cherries

Mexico Midget

Greens

My Mystery Green - I call it Gregory's Green for now
Green Giant
Aunt Ruby's German Green
Grub's Mystery Green

Orange

KBX
Orange Minsk
Orange Jazz
Chef's Choice Orange

Pineapple Pig
Lucky Cross

Blacks

Cherokee Purple - of course!
Carbon
Cherokee Carbon
Indian Stripe
Pink Berkley Tie Dye
Large Barred Boar

Gonna be busy!

Greg

Good looking list but you might want to consider creating a Pink list for Dester and Arkansas Traveler since you have them under the Reds right now.

Carolyn

Dark Rumor · January 11, 2016

How many square feet do you have for the 30 plants?

My list for my two raised beds:
Abe Lincoln Beefsteak Big Red Box Car Willie Bush Beefsteak Carmello Dona Gregori's Altai Mexico Mortgage Lifter Container: Beaverlodge Slicer Early Wonder

Gardeneer · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by Dark Rumor

How many square feet do you have for the 30 plants?

My list for my two raised beds:
Abe Lincoln Beefsteak Big Red Box Car Willie Bush Beefsteak Carmello Dona Gregori's Altai Mexico Mortgage Lifter Container: Beaverlodge Slicer Early Wonder

What is the shape of your beds ?

To speak from my own experience , I give roughly 3 sq-ft for each plant. that is roughly 20" by 20".
If I had more space I would've upped it to 4 sq-ft per plant.

So to answer your question you need 90 to 100 sq-ft space.

Gardeneer

sjamesNorway · January 12, 2016

gssgarden, I see that you're planning on growing both Big Beef and Goliath. I'm planning on growing one or the other, as I only have room for one of them. Have you grown them before, and if so, could you compare them?

Steve

kath · January 12, 2016

Nice list! Do you combine all those varieties to make your sauce? Asking because when I did that one year the color was rather muddy.

kath

**carolyn137** · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by kath

Nice list! Do you combine all those varieties to make your sauce? Asking because when I did that one year the color was rather muddy.

kath

I had to laugh about that Kath since whenI was still using paste tomatoes for sauce before I switched to heart varieties and meaty beefsteaks I sure came up with some weird colors since all paste tomatoes are not red.

I wondered from time to time that if one used just GWripe varieties and some yellow varieties if sauce would turn out to be blue, ahem, as happens with watercolors.

Carolyn

imp · January 12, 2016

That is an interesting thought, carolyn. If you used close to equal amounts, I wonder.....

If it did make a blue sauce, serve it on a black pasta to really freak people out.

Worth1 · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

I had to laugh about that Kath since whenI was still using paste tomatoes for sauce before I switched to heart varieties and meaty beefsteaks I sure came up with some weird colors since all paste tomatoes are not red.

I wondered from time to time that if one used just GWripe varieties and some yellow varieties if sauce would turn out to be blue, ahem, as happens with watercolors.

Carolyn

I'm sorry Carolyn, Blue Yellow and Red are the primary colors all other colors come from a mixture of these.

All you would get from green and yellow is light green.

Yellow and blue make green.

Worth

**carolyn137** · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by Worth1

I'm sorry Carolyn, Blue Yellow and Red are the primary colors all other colors come from a mixture of these.

All you would get from green and yellow is light green.

Yellow and blue make green.

Worth

Oh my, I made a mistake, first one in 20 years and you are so right Worth.And I ask when was the last time that YOU made a mistake, talking gardening now, not other mistakes/

Yellows I've got plenty of but forget it when it comes to any antho ones, with perhaps one exception.

Carolyn

imp · January 12, 2016

Me, too, just ran off with the thought! Well, there are blue tomatoes....maybe I will just stick with yellow or bright orange sauce and black pasta.

Worth1 · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

Oh my, I made a mistake, first one in 20 years and you are so right Worth.And I ask when was the last time that YOU made a mistake, talking gardening now, not other mistakes/

Yellows I've got plenty of but forget it when it comes to any antho ones, with perhaps one exception.

Carolyn

I never make mistakes gardening, I like to call them discoveries.

I never will forget the time my mother let me help her make my own green three layer Birthday cake.

Worth

Fusion_power · January 12, 2016

I would probably use one of the pale purple varieties to make sauce and mix with a small amount of an anthocyanin variety to get the proper color blue.

We all make mistakes and we pay for them, often more than we expected to pay and longer than we expected the payments to last.

I am fortunate to have a mother who often indulged my desire for chocolate cake.

Dark Rumor · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

What is the shape of your beds ?

To speak from my own experience , I give roughly 3 sq-ft for each plant. that is roughly 20" by 20".
If I had more space I would've upped it to 4 sq-ft per plant.

So to answer your question you need 90 to 100 sq-ft space.

Gardeneer

One bed is 3'x5' - 15 sq ft - I was planning on 5 to 6 plants
the second bed is 8'x7' - 56 sq ft - I was planning on 16 to 20 plants
I will probably keep it to the 3 square feet per plant

Gardeneer · January 12, 2016

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Originally Posted by Dark Rumor

One bed is 3'x5' - 15 sq ft - I was planning on 5 to 6 plants
the second bed is 8'x7' - 56 sq ft - I was planning on 16 to 20 plants
I will probably keep it to the 3 square feet per plant

You are doing it right I think.

===== 5 plants in 15 sq-ft corresponds to 3 sq-ft per plant ( as I said )
===== in 56 sq-ft 18 plants will also be 3 sq-ft per plant.

So the total will be roughly 23 plants.
What I have suggested is what I have been doing for the past 3 seasons myself. So it is not something theoretical. For example in a 2.5ft by 5ft I will plant 4. I have done 5 too. That would be 2.5sq-ft per plant.

Gardeneer

January 11, 2016	#1
gssgarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: N.C. Posts: 1,820	My list.. 30 plants in raised beds and 2 Dwarves. Gonna make a LOT of sauce this year!! Reds Shannon's - 4 Wes Giant Belgium Dester Arkansas Traveler George Detsikas Italian Red Goliath Early Goliath Big Beef Cuostralee Box Car Willie Cherries Mexico Midget Greens My Mystery Green - I call it Gregory's Green for now Green Giant Aunt Ruby's German Green Grub's Mystery Green Orange KBX Orange Minsk Orange Jazz Chef's Choice Orange Pineapple Pig Lucky Cross Blacks Cherokee Purple - of course! Carbon Cherokee Carbon Indian Stripe Pink Berkley Tie Dye Large Barred Boar Gonna be busy! Greg

January 11, 2016	#3
Dark Rumor Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Southeast Texas Posts: 287	How many square feet do you have for the 30 plants? My list for my two raised beds: Abe Lincoln Beefsteak Big Red Box Car Willie Bush Beefsteak Carmello Dona Gregori's Altai Mexico Mortgage Lifter Container: Beaverlodge Slicer Early Wonder

January 12, 2016	#5
sjamesNorway Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Norway Posts: 1,049	gssgarden, I see that you're planning on growing both Big Beef and Goliath. I'm planning on growing one or the other, as I only have room for one of them. Have you grown them before, and if so, could you compare them? Steve

January 12, 2016	#6
kath Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: zone 6b, PA Posts: 5,664	Nice list! Do you combine all those varieties to make your sauce? Asking because when I did that one year the color was rather muddy. kath

January 12, 2016	#8
imp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 4,832	That is an interesting thought, carolyn. If you used close to equal amounts, I wonder..... If it did make a blue sauce, serve it on a black pasta to really freak people out.

January 12, 2016	#13
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	I would probably use one of the pale purple varieties to make sauce and mix with a small amount of an anthocyanin variety to get the proper color blue. We all make mistakes and we pay for them, often more than we expected to pay and longer than we expected the payments to last. I am fortunate to have a mother who often indulged my desire for chocolate cake.