Free seed of 2012 crosses

[tuk50]

Of the three plants, one only grew about a foot tall and died, the second one died a few weeks ago without producing fruit and the last one seems ok and is just now producing nice size fruit and only has a few yellow leaves at the bottom third of the plant.
Chris, let me know if you want any of the seeds that I saved .. the pm has some of the details .. I can get them out this week if you want.

John

[ChrisK]

Yep, I certainly would like seed! Looking forward to the details of your observations.

I will plant quite a few of the Green Z. x Black f. Tula next year for sure.

Originally Posted by tuk50

Of the three plants, one only grew about a foot tall and died, the second one died a few weeks ago without producing fruit and the last one seems ok and is just now producing nice size fruit and only has a few yellow leaves at the bottom third of the plant.
Chris, let me know if you want any of the seeds that I saved .. the pm has some of the details .. I can get them out this week if you want.

John

[clkingtx]

I noticed I have small fruit on the Chocolate Cherry x Sungold f1 plants, and several more flowers. It is in a pot, and it is growing faster than the one in the ground, which has no flowers or fruit yet. The Dr Carolyn x Green Zebra Crosses haven't flowered yet, either. Hopefully more flowers coming soon, and ripe fruit!

[tuk50]

http://s108.photobucket.com/user/tuk...tml?sort=3&o=3 http://s108.photobucket.com/user/tuk...tml?sort=3&o=2 http://s108.photobucket.com/user/tuk...tml?sort=3&o=1 http://s108.photobucket.com/user/tuk...tml?sort=3&o=0
Chris, you can see some of the striping here.. and the plants that are disease free and handling the extreme heat well. The GZxBFT A has about had it as you can see, but we got a few from it that tasted very good. The JxGX and JxSR are later varieties and didn't set as many fruits as GZxBFT did, but they are blooming like crazy and if I can keep them alive till the heat breaks, they look very prolific.

[ChrisK]

Interesting! Look a heck of a lot like Speckled Roman with those wavy stripes and that tell tale nipple. I did not expect stripes in the F1. Were the fruit sizes between plant A and B always that much different? About how long were the fruit on average?

Thanks for the good info. Copied into the pedigree spreadsheet!

[tuk50]

Yeah! the fruit in the picture are an average size.. we will know more when the heat breaks and there is a good fruit set... its hard to predict fruit size in my climate at the beginning of the season. There are a lot of tomatoes that won't set a fruit till fall because of the excessive heat, so I usually get my largest fruit early since the climate selectively thins the vines.

The pictures don't do them justice... they all have some striping and another interesting thing is the JxGZ B when juice is squeezed out for seeds is red while the C vine juice is pale green similar to a GZ while the fruit is a bit orange looking. These haven't produced many yet, but they are full of blooms and I hope to get a lot this fall. The climate drastically changes this month. We get what is called monsoons starting in July and the humidity goes from single digits to a humid enviroment and occasional showers as the moisture comes off the Gulf from Texas and New Mexico. This drastic change desimates any vines that are struggling with wilt at this point. So I'm hoping these healthy looking vines will set fruit in a couple of months.

Just another side note.... the JxGZ A and B are over 7ft tall and growing.. you can get an idea of the size by looking at the fence post in the row, it's an 8ft post buried 2ft deep in the soil.. the cages are 5ft tall and they are cascading over the top...

[ChrisK]

The seed is starting to trickle in from 2013 growers (thanks everyone!) and I've been collecting F2 seed like crazy from my own F1 growouts. Is anyone that can grow year round (Texas? Florida?) interested in growing a bunch of plants (5-10 or more) of a single cross, assessing fruit and plants and sending me back F3 seed from each plant in time for planting next spring in NC? I'm full up here trying to get more micro crosses to a next generation by fall!

I'll post another offer for the typical 2014 season early next year.

[bwaynef]

I gave these seedlings away and have been waiting on reports. I got a couple of fruits today. I'm being told they don't taste like much and they're prone to splitting, but both of those things could improve when the rain lets up here. (I heard a report of just less than 9" in 4 hours this weekend.)

I'm going to try to grab these seeds to get back to you, but hopefully I'll have a better report later in the summer.

[Redbaron]

I picked Dr Carolyn X Pink Berkley Tie Dye and Dr Carolyn X Beauty Queen today.

Both are about ping pong ball size.

DCXPBTD is a tri color, pink yellow pale green and DCXBQ is a bicolor with faint stripes, yellow and almost a tangerine. Both are very pretty small tomatoes. I haven't tasted them yet.

[clkingtx]

I have several fruit on Chocolate Cherry x Sungold F1 plants, and lots of flowers. Lots of flowers on dr Carolyn x green zebra. The problem is most of the flowers have stigmas that stick way out, some even before the bud opens. Should I bag some unopened flower buds to eliminate the possibility of outcrossing, and then save those fruit? Here are some pictures:

[ChrisK]

Interesting. I recall a thread about L. pimpinellifolium having exerted stigmas and also being in the pedigree of Sungold. If it's not too much trouble, bagging would be great, esp. if you have lots of bees!

Originally Posted by clkingtx

I have several fruit on Chocolate Cherry x Sungold F1 plants, and lots of flowers. Lots of flowers on dr Carolyn x green zebra. The problem is most of the flowers have stigmas that stick way out, some even before the bud opens. Should I bag some unopened flower buds to eliminate the possibility of outcrossing, and then save those fruit? Here are some pictures:

[ChrisK]

I hope for some good tasting striped cherries out of those crosses. Gates' varieties don't do well for me while DC was fruit producing machine last year but was mild tasting.

Originally Posted by Redbaron

I picked Dr Carolyn X Pink Berkley Tie Dye and Dr Carolyn X Beauty Queen today.

Both are about ping pong ball size.

DCXPBTD is a tri color, pink yellow pale green and DCXBQ is a bicolor with faint stripes, yellow and almost a tangerine. Both are very pretty small tomatoes. I haven't tasted them yet.

[clkingtx]

I can definitely bag some for seed. Interesting about the "L. pimpinellifolium having exerted stigmas and also being in the pedigree of Sungold" I wonder why the Dr Carolyn x Green Zebra plants have them, too...Pictures 4 and 6 are of those plants.

[ChrisK]

Ah, ok. Then hypothesis dashed! I didn't follow which cross you were referring to.

Dunno, maybe that is environmentally influenced? I'm ignorant on this one at the moment.

Originally Posted by clkingtx

I can definitely bag some for seed. Interesting about the "L. pimpinellifolium having exerted stigmas and also being in the pedigree of Sungold" I wonder why the Dr Carolyn x Green Zebra plants have them, too...Pictures 4 and 6 are of those plants.

[Redbaron]

Originally Posted by ChrisK

I hope for some good tasting striped cherries out of those crosses. Gates' varieties don't do well for me while DC was fruit producing machine last year but was mild tasting.

At least for first picking, I prefer DCXPBTD. Above average but not great.

DCXPBTD~7
DCXBQ~6
But it is wetter than normal. So I will taste test again later in the year.