YOUR Tentativ Grow out ... for 2016 season - Page 9

rsg2001 · January 8, 2016

Hi All,
Based on last year's great crop, I'm keeping the following and open to some new varieties:

Sungold
Black Cherry
Honeydrop
Microbeicum Occemus
Japanese Black Trifele
Russian Queen
Lemon Boy
Nepal (It lived up to what Craig L. said in his book)
Cherokee Green
Cherokee Purple
Eva Purple Ball
Costoluto Fiorentino
Costoluto- Genovese - Cherokee Purple Cross - these were from seeds I saved a few years ago from what I thought was an accidental cross. A couple of the plants were true to what I remembered, which was regular leaf foliage with muddy brownish-red large tomatoes with great taste that didn't taste like either of what I think were the parent plants - different from CP and had some ruffles on the top.
Tang - trying again with saved seed. It only yielded a few tasty orange tomatoes but was delicious
Indigo Cherry Drops
Pink Berkeley Tye Dye
Brandywine Sudduth
Goldie's Yellow
Cherokee Lime **(I received this from Ginger - it was prodigious and tasty, but I don't think it is from the Cherokee 'family' - you have to be pick this one very quickly as it ripens fast and you sometimes can't tell until it gets squishy. Finally got the hang of it late.)
Summer Sunrise
Boronia
Lime Green Salad

Not coming back are:
Peacevine (cherry) - it produced early but faded out quickly.
Green Zebra Cherry - second time it flopped in terms of production and was badly hit with Septoria leaf spot
Indigo Blue Beauty - disappointing production and not that tasty
Hayes - disappointing production
Upstate Oxheart - a local variety that produced just one big beautiful and tasty tomato and that was it

ginger2778 · January 8, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsg2001

Hi All,
Based on last year's great crop, I'm keeping the following and open to some new varieties:

Sungold
Black Cherry
Honeydrop
Microbeicum Occemus
Japanese Black Trifele
Russian Queen
Lemon Boy
Nepal (It lived up to what Craig L. said in his book)
Cherokee Green
Cherokee Purple
Eva Purple Ball
Costoluto Fiorentino
Costoluto- Genovese - Cherokee Purple Cross - these were from seeds I saved a few years ago from what I thought was an accidental cross. A couple of the plants were true to what I remembered, which was regular leaf foliage with muddy brownish-red large tomatoes with great taste that didn't taste like either of what I think were the parent plants - different from CP and had some ruffles on the top.
Tang - trying again with saved seed. It only yielded a few tasty orange tomatoes but was delicious
Indigo Cherry Drops
Pink Berkeley Tye Dye
Brandywine Sudduth
Goldie's Yellow
Cherokee Lime **(I received this from Ginger - it was prodigious and tasty, but I don't think it is from the Cherokee 'family' - you have to be pick this one very quickly as it ripens fast and you sometimes can't tell until it gets squishy. Finally got the hang of it late.)
Summer Sunrise
Boronia
Lime Green Salad

Not coming back are:
Peacevine (cherry) - it produced early but faded out quickly.
Green Zebra Cherry - second time it flopped in terms of production and was badly hit with Septoria leaf spot
Indigo Blue Beauty - disappointing production and not that tasty
Hayes - disappointing production
Upstate Oxheart - a local variety that produced just one big beautiful and tasty tomato and that was it

I had the same issue with Cher.Lime, but if you get it right, they are very very good.
I found Hays to be moderately productive. This year, you just gotta try Iraqi Heart, oh so sweet and excellent flavored, but a great sauce tomato too, and wow, the production was through the roof. Taste much better than Hays for me. Wish it didn't have that unfortunate name, but I love it in spite of that.

Gardeneer · January 8, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsg2001

Hi All,
Based on last year's great crop, I'm keeping the following and open to some new varieties:

Sungold
Black Cherry
Honeydrop
Microbeicum Occemus
Japanese Black Trifele
Russian Queen
Lemon Boy
Nepal (It lived up to what Craig L. said in his book)
Cherokee Green
Cherokee Purple
Eva Purple Ball
Costoluto Fiorentino
Costoluto- Genovese - Cherokee Purple Cross - these were from seeds I saved a few years ago from what I thought was an accidental cross. A couple of the plants were true to what I remembered, which was regular leaf foliage with muddy brownish-red large tomatoes with great taste that didn't taste like either of what I think were the parent plants - different from CP and had some ruffles on the top.
Tang - trying again with saved seed. It only yielded a few tasty orange tomatoes but was delicious
Indigo Cherry Drops
Pink Berkeley Tye Dye
Brandywine Sudduth
Goldie's Yellow
Cherokee Lime **(I received this from Ginger - it was prodigious and tasty, but I don't think it is from the Cherokee 'family' - you have to be pick this one very quickly as it ripens fast and you sometimes can't tell until it gets squishy. Finally got the hang of it late.)
Summer Sunrise
Boronia
Lime Green Salad

Not coming back are:
Peacevine (cherry) - it produced early but faded out quickly.
Green Zebra Cherry - second time it flopped in terms of production and was badly hit with Septoria leaf spot
Indigo Blue Beauty - disappointing production and not that tasty
Hayes - disappointing production
Upstate Oxheart - a local variety that produced just one big beautiful and tasty tomato and that was it

Hi there, rsg

You have a very diverse grow out choices.
I have grown 6 0r 7 of them in the past and will be growing couple of the this year :

== COSTOLUTO (don't know the version)
== CHEROKEE PURPLE
== JBT (maybe !)

Good luck and have a nice season to come.

Gardeneer

Tormato · January 9, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsg2001

Hi All,
Based on last year's great crop, I'm keeping the following and open to some new varieties:

Sungold
Black Cherry
Honeydrop
Microbeicum Occemus
Japanese Black Trifele
Russian Queen
Lemon Boy
Nepal (It lived up to what Craig L. said in his book)
Cherokee Green
Cherokee Purple
Eva Purple Ball
Costoluto Fiorentino
Costoluto- Genovese - Cherokee Purple Cross - these were from seeds I saved a few years ago from what I thought was an accidental cross. A couple of the plants were true to what I remembered, which was regular leaf foliage with muddy brownish-red large tomatoes with great taste that didn't taste like either of what I think were the parent plants - different from CP and had some ruffles on the top.
Tang - trying again with saved seed. It only yielded a few tasty orange tomatoes but was delicious
Indigo Cherry Drops
Pink Berkeley Tye Dye
Brandywine Sudduth
Goldie's Yellow
Cherokee Lime **(I received this from Ginger - it was prodigious and tasty, but I don't think it is from the Cherokee 'family' - you have to be pick this one very quickly as it ripens fast and you sometimes can't tell until it gets squishy. Finally got the hang of it late.)
Summer Sunrise
Boronia
Lime Green Salad

Not coming back are:
Peacevine (cherry) - it produced early but faded out quickly.
Green Zebra Cherry - second time it flopped in terms of production and was badly hit with Septoria leaf spot
Indigo Blue Beauty - disappointing production and not that tasty
Hayes - disappointing production
Upstate Oxheart - a local variety that produced just one big beautiful and tasty tomato and that was it

Upstate Oxheart- If it's not coming back, can you send it inter-state (to Massachusetts)?

Gerardo · January 9, 2016

Planted out in successive waves throughout the year.

Some for spring, others for fall-winter, and the big boys timed for the middle of the summer.

Whittling down ended up being a mental exercise. This is the tentative list for 2016.

Arctic Rose
Aunt Ginny's Purple
Bear Creek
BHN 871
Big Zac F1
Blazing Beauty
Brandywine Cowlicks + Sudduths
Chocolate Champion
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Daniel Burson
Darocense Corporalis
Dora
Fred's Tie-Dye
Fresa
Girls Girls WT
Gribovsky
Hoy
India Stripe PL
Kazachka
Khirkiv
Kibits
Knopka
Koraleva
Kosovo
Krasnodar Titans
Larissa
Leningradskij Skorospelyi
Linthorpa Prinzess
Lisos Grandes
Lucky Tiger 4 variants
Maglia Rosa
Magyar Piros Boker
Margaret Curtain
Mikhalych
Milka's Red Bulgarian
Morado Ambite
Mr. Snow
Novikov Giant
ORANGE RUSSIAN 117 HEART
Perth Pride
Pervaya Lyubov
Petrovich
Purple Reign
Rebelski
Roteño
Roza Vetrov
Rozoviyi Izumnyi
Sakharnyi Pudovichok
Sibirskiy Skorospelyi
Shamrock F7 aka Jackass Green
Sleeping Lady
Ssubakus Aliana
Summertime Gold
Summertime Green
Sunrise and Pink BB
Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
Tasmanian Chocolate
Tsarskiy Podarok
Uluru Ochre
Uralskiy Rozoyvi
Volovsko Srce
Wherokowhai
Zamorano
Zarnitsa

Plus a few others I'm sure. All in containers. usually two specimens of each variety.

Cole_Robbie · January 9, 2016

Krasnodar Titans

I found an old post by Carolyn where she said Krasnodar Titans was overly-firm and not that good. So maybe my Titan Red is not actually the same variety. I think there are a lot of "titan" tomatoes from that area of the world. They may all be related.

Gerardo · January 9, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

Krasnodar Titans

I found an old post by Carolyn where she said Krasnodar Titans was overly-firm and not that good. So maybe my Titan Red is not actually the same variety. I think there are a lot of "titan" tomatoes from that area of the world. They may all be related.

So far I count three, the one you call Titan Red a RL indet (?) with medium sized fruit that have green shoulders, another "Titan" from the MMMM and then Krasnodar Titans. If I have room I'll grow out the MMMM Titan and then do comparative pics so we can settle it.

I don't think your Titan Red is krasnodar T.

I wonder if the Titan from the MMMM is the one described by Tatiana as: "det., regular leaf plants that are suitable for container growing, early fruit set, small round red fruits, 1-2 oz, very nice 'old-fashioned' tomato taste, nice juice/meat balance, very good for salads. Beautiful green shoulders on maturing fruits that disappear when fully ripe"

**carolyn137** · January 9, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerardo

Planted out in successive waves throughout the year.

Some for spring, others for fall-winter, and the big boys timed for the middle of the summer.

Whittling down ended up being a mental exercise. This is the tentative list for 2016.

Arctic Rose
Aunt Ginny's Purple
Bear Creek
BHN 871
Big Zac F1
Blazing Beauty
Brandywine Cowlicks + Sudduths
Chocolate Champion
Crnkovic Yugoslavian
Daniel Burson
Darocense Corporalis
Dora
Fred's Tie-Dye
Fresa
Girls Girls WT
Gribovsky
Hoy
India Stripe PL
Kazachka
Khirkiv
Kibits
Knopka
Koraleva
Kosovo
Krasnodar Titans
Larissa
Leningradskij Skorospelyi
Linthorpa Prinzess
Lisos Grandes
Lucky Tiger 4 variants
Maglia Rosa
Magyar Piros Boker
Margaret Curtain
Mikhalych
Milka's Red Bulgarian
Morado Ambite
Mr. Snow
Novikov Giant
ORANGE RUSSIAN 117 HEART
Perth Pride
Pervaya Lyubov
Petrovich
Purple Reign
Rebelski
Roteño
Roza Vetrov
Rozoviyi Izumnyi
Sakharnyi Pudovichok
Sibirskiy Skorospelyi
Shamrock F7 aka Jackass Green
Sleeping Lady
Ssubakus Aliana
Summertime Gold
Summertime Green
Sunrise and Pink BB
Sweet Scarlet Dwarf
Tasmanian Chocolate
Tsarskiy Podarok
Uluru Ochre
Uralskiy Rozoyvi
Volovsko Srce
Wherokowhai
Zamorano
Zarnitsa

Plus a few others I'm sure. All in containers. usually two specimens of each variety.

Even though you say a tentative list are you sure that your above list is NOTopen for whittling/shaving, but most importantly warnings and glad greetings for some of them or wait, being the egalitarian I am, and just wait for your performance thread feedbacks.

Carolyn, who thinks it might be best to sit on this one and then express herself in terms of music videos, such as Chopin's Funeral March for some and the 4th movement of Beethoven's 9th, the Ode To Joy.,

Gerardo · January 10, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by carolyn137

Even though you say a tentative list are you sure that your above list is NOTopen for whittling/shaving, but most importantly warnings and glad greetings for some of them or wait, being the egalitarian I am, and just wait for your performance thread feedbacks.

Carolyn, who thinks it might be best to sit on this one and then express herself in terms of music videos, such as Chopin's Funeral March for some and the 4th movement of Beethoven's 9th, the Ode To Joy.,

It is more than open to shaving. I very much appreciate your efforts to save us from hitting our head against the wall, or at the very least your advise to put a helmet on.

While there' something to be said for enjoying the journey, potholes included, perhaps it is best not to reinvent the wheel here.

I want to grow krasnodar for the long keeping trait, just to see it unfold. Maybe a De Colgar variety might be a more worthy candidate for that type of exploration.

And I was thinking, instead of Chopin, how about a NO Funeral March, that way they at least get to dance a little bit, even in the coffin!

patty_b · January 10, 2016

Because it's one of those snowing like crazy, stay in your pj's and think about growing tomatoes kind of day...I pulled these to add to my grow list and I must say I will be looking forward to growing these for several reasons. But main list not put together yet....
Butter 'n Eggs ... Gary Millwood
German Johnson PL .. Bert Searcy
German Johnson ... Dunkel
German Head .. R. Gee
German Queen
German Mammoth Gold .. Beth (as written on pack)
Striped German .. winter sown
Georgia streak .. Fox Hollow
Carmella ' s Yellow Stripe
Tennessee Surprise .. Gary Millwood
Stump X Bear Claw R. Gee
Tuxhorn .. Nick Y's garden

It's a start!

Gardeneer · January 10, 2016

UPDATE:

1-AZOYCHKA
2-BETTER BOY (F1)
3-BIG BEEF (F1)
4- BLACK FROM TULA
5 (P)- BLACK SEA MAN
6- GREEN COPIA
7- BROWN HEART
8 (P)- HAHMS GELBE T.
9-INDIAN STRIPE , RL
7 (P)- INDIGO APPLE
10 (P)- KUMATO (F3)
11- (P) NEW BIG DWARF
12-OLD GERMAN
13- (P) PURPLE HEART, dwrf
14-REISENTRAUBE
15- SAKHARNYI ZHELTYI
16 (P)- SILETZ
17- WILLAMETTE
============
MORE:
18- Cherokee Purple (recall)
19 (P)-Silvery Fir Tree , (Recall)
20-Legend (Recall)
21-Costoluto (Recall)
22-Daniel Burson
23-Black Grape (description)
24 -Ananas Noire (Recall)
24- Big Boy
26 - Oregon Spring
---------------------------------
*** NEW =13 varieties ***
(P) - Grown in pot

Interestingly I have 13 NEW and 13 repeats from the past.

There will be side by side observation within 2 groups:

group 1) BIG BEEF,,, BETTER BOY ,,, BIG BOY (3 way )
group 2) CP ,,, IS ,,, BLACK SEA MAN ,,, BLACK FROM TULA (4 way).

There will be first and second prize winners in each group. The loosers will be sent back home to their mama

I promise to review them, when the time comes.

Gardeneer

Worth1 · January 10, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

UPDATE:

1-AZOYCHKA
2-BETTER BOY (F1)
3-BIG BEEF (F1)
4- BLACK FROM TULA
5 (P)- BLACK SEA MAN
6- GREEN COPIA
7- BROWN HEART
8 (P)- HAHMS GELBE T.
9-INDIAN STRIPE , RL
7 (P)- INDIGO APPLE
10 (P)- KUMATO (F3)
11- (P) NEW BIG DWARF
12-OLD GERMAN
13- (P) PURPLE HEART, dwrf
14-REISENTRAUBE
15- SAKHARNYI ZHELTYI
16 (P)- SILETZ
17- WILLAMETTE
============
MORE:
18- Cherokee Purple (recall)
19 (P)-Silvery Fir Tree , (Recall)
20-Legend (Recall)
21-Costoluto (Recall)
22-Daniel Burson
23-Black Grape (description)
24 -Ananas Noire (Recall)
24- Big Boy
26 - Oregon Spring
---------------------------------
*** NEW =13 varieties ***
(P) - Grown in pot

Interestingly I have 13 NEW and 13 repeats from the past.

There will be side by side observation within 2 groups:

group 1) BIG BEEF,,, BETTER BOY ,,, BIG BOY (3 way )
group 2) CP ,,, IS ,,, BLACK SEA MAN ,,, BLACK FROM TULA (4 way).

There will be first and second prize winners in each group. The loosers will be sent back home to their mama

I promise to review them, when the time comes.

Gardeneer

What a coincidence I was going to suggest to you to try Oregon Spring in another thread.
I think you will like it if anything it is one cool looking plant.
It is on my successful tomatoes for Texas list.

Worth

Gardeneer · January 10, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Worth1

What a coincidence I was going to suggest to you to try Oregon Spring in another thread.
I think you will like it if anything it is one cool looking plant.
It is on my successful tomatoes for Texas list.

Worth

Oregon Spring is my fifth tomato bred by OSU. It is , I think , Parthenocarpic.. That means it can set fruit in both cold and hot conditions, without a need to get perfect pollination. I have grown Siletz, Legend, and Willamette and Indigo Rose before. Last year Willamette was one of the top producers in my garden.

Gardeneer

Worth1 · January 10, 2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gardeneer

Oregon Spring is my fifth tomato bred by OSU. It is , I think , Parthenocarpic.. That means it can set fruit in both cold and hot conditions, without a need to get perfect pollination. I have grown Siletz, Legend, and Willamette and Indigo Rose before. Last year Willamette was one of the top producers in my garden.

Gardeneer

I introduced it to a guy in Alaska he loved it.

Worth

rsg2001 · January 13, 2016

Marsha, thanks very much for your recommendation! I should mention (outside of the tomatoes) that I did extremely well with cheese pumpkins (have made pies, sautees, mac 'n' cheese and more with the pumpkin meat), as well as with several kinds of kale, collards, and butternut squash, none of which I had grown before.

January 9, 2016	#125
Gerardo Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego-Tijuana Posts: 2,594	Planted out in successive waves throughout the year. Some for spring, others for fall-winter, and the big boys timed for the middle of the summer. Whittling down ended up being a mental exercise. This is the tentative list for 2016. Arctic Rose Aunt Ginny's Purple Bear Creek BHN 871 Big Zac F1 Blazing Beauty Brandywine Cowlicks + Sudduths Chocolate Champion Crnkovic Yugoslavian Daniel Burson Darocense Corporalis Dora Fred's Tie-Dye Fresa Girls Girls WT Gribovsky Hoy India Stripe PL Kazachka Khirkiv Kibits Knopka Koraleva Kosovo Krasnodar Titans Larissa Leningradskij Skorospelyi Linthorpa Prinzess Lisos Grandes Lucky Tiger 4 variants Maglia Rosa Magyar Piros Boker Margaret Curtain Mikhalych Milka's Red Bulgarian Morado Ambite Mr. Snow Novikov Giant ORANGE RUSSIAN 117 HEART Perth Pride Pervaya Lyubov Petrovich Purple Reign Rebelski Roteño Roza Vetrov Rozoviyi Izumnyi Sakharnyi Pudovichok Sibirskiy Skorospelyi Shamrock F7 aka Jackass Green Sleeping Lady Ssubakus Aliana Summertime Gold Summertime Green Sunrise and Pink BB Sweet Scarlet Dwarf Tasmanian Chocolate Tsarskiy Podarok Uluru Ochre Uralskiy Rozoyvi Volovsko Srce Wherokowhai Zamorano Zarnitsa Plus a few others I'm sure. All in containers. usually two specimens of each variety.

January 10, 2016	#130
patty_b Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 487	Because it's one of those snowing like crazy, stay in your pj's and think about growing tomatoes kind of day...I pulled these to add to my grow list and I must say I will be looking forward to growing these for several reasons. But main list not put together yet.... Butter 'n Eggs ... Gary Millwood German Johnson PL .. Bert Searcy German Johnson ... Dunkel German Head .. R. Gee German Queen German Mammoth Gold .. Beth (as written on pack) Striped German .. winter sown Georgia streak .. Fox Hollow Carmella ' s Yellow Stripe Tennessee Surprise .. Gary Millwood Stump X Bear Claw R. Gee Tuxhorn .. Nick Y's garden It's a start! Last edited by patty_b; January 10, 2016 at 11:47 AM. Reason: Add

January 8, 2016	#121
rsg2001 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Zone 6 Posts: 479	Hi All, Based on last year's great crop, I'm keeping the following and open to some new varieties: Sungold Black Cherry Honeydrop Microbeicum Occemus Japanese Black Trifele Russian Queen Lemon Boy Nepal (It lived up to what Craig L. said in his book) Cherokee Green Cherokee Purple Eva Purple Ball Costoluto Fiorentino Costoluto- Genovese - Cherokee Purple Cross - these were from seeds I saved a few years ago from what I thought was an accidental cross. A couple of the plants were true to what I remembered, which was regular leaf foliage with muddy brownish-red large tomatoes with great taste that didn't taste like either of what I think were the parent plants - different from CP and had some ruffles on the top. Tang - trying again with saved seed. It only yielded a few tasty orange tomatoes but was delicious Indigo Cherry Drops Pink Berkeley Tye Dye Brandywine Sudduth Goldie's Yellow Cherokee Lime **(I received this from Ginger - it was prodigious and tasty, but I don't think it is from the Cherokee 'family' - you have to be pick this one very quickly as it ripens fast and you sometimes can't tell until it gets squishy. Finally got the hang of it late.) Summer Sunrise Boronia Lime Green Salad Not coming back are: Peacevine (cherry) - it produced early but faded out quickly. Green Zebra Cherry - second time it flopped in terms of production and was badly hit with Septoria leaf spot Indigo Blue Beauty - disappointing production and not that tasty Hayes - disappointing production Upstate Oxheart - a local variety that produced just one big beautiful and tasty tomato and that was it

January 9, 2016	#126
Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Krasnodar Titans I found an old post by Carolyn where she said Krasnodar Titans was overly-firm and not that good. So maybe my Titan Red is not actually the same variety. I think there are a lot of "titan" tomatoes from that area of the world. They may all be related.

January 10, 2016	#131
Gardeneer Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: NC - zone 8a - heat zone 7 Posts: 4,916	UPDATE: 1-AZOYCHKA 2-BETTER BOY (F1) 3-BIG BEEF (F1) 4- BLACK FROM TULA 5 (P)- BLACK SEA MAN 6- GREEN COPIA 7- BROWN HEART 8 (P)- HAHMS GELBE T. 9-INDIAN STRIPE , RL 7 (P)- INDIGO APPLE 10 (P)- KUMATO (F3) 11- (P) NEW BIG DWARF 12-OLD GERMAN 13- (P) PURPLE HEART, dwrf 14-REISENTRAUBE 15- SAKHARNYI ZHELTYI 16 (P)- SILETZ 17- WILLAMETTE ============ MORE: 18- Cherokee Purple (recall) 19 (P)-Silvery Fir Tree , (Recall) 20-Legend (Recall) 21-Costoluto (Recall) 22-Daniel Burson 23-Black Grape (description) 24 -Ananas Noire (Recall) 24- Big Boy 26 - Oregon Spring --------------------------------- * NEW =13 varieties * (P) - Grown in pot Interestingly I have 13 NEW and 13 repeats from the past. There will be side by side observation within 2 groups: group 1) BIG BEEF,,, BETTER BOY ,,, BIG BOY (3 way ) group 2) CP ,,, IS ,,, BLACK SEA MAN ,,, BLACK FROM TULA (4 way). There will be first and second prize winners in each group. The loosers will be sent back home to their mama I promise to review them, when the time comes. Gardeneer

January 13, 2016	#135
rsg2001 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New York Zone 6 Posts: 479	Marsha, thanks very much for your recommendation! I should mention (outside of the tomatoes) that I did extremely well with cheese pumpkins (have made pies, sautees, mac 'n' cheese and more with the pumpkin meat), as well as with several kinds of kale, collards, and butternut squash, none of which I had grown before.