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Old June 11, 2016   #811
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earlier today I saw a red pepper on one of my pepper plants in the pepper jungle.
I thought it was a Red Hab.
I put it in my pocket and forgot about it.

Just a while ago I felt something in my pocket and was fiddling with it thinking it was ball of paper of something.
It busted and got juice all over my hand.
What the devil is that I thought to myself.
I pulled it out and it was the red pepper.
I'm in trouble now.

So what the heck I will just go ahead and eat the thing whole and suffer.
It was very good.
Slightly sweet and fruity nothing like a Hab would be.
Not very hot at all but somewhat hot.
Just right hot really.
What was that thing, I need to go look at the tag.
It was a Jamaican hot red.
I have to say of all the peppers I have grown the mushroom or squash type peppers are on the top of the list as for flavor and hotness.

This one will be back next time for sure.
I might even over winter these in this area.

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Old June 11, 2016   #812
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Are you growing Roccot, Worth ?
It is the juiciest and fruity pepper that I have ever known.
Its heat level is like 50K on SHI.
It is very unique in that it has black seeds.
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PS: Roccot red version of Mansano (yellow)

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Old June 11, 2016   #813
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Are you growing Roccot, Worth ?
It is the juiciest and fruity pepper that I have ever known.
Its heat level is like 50K on SHI.
It is very unique in that it has black seeds.
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PS: Roccot red version of Mansano (yellow)
I put out over a thousand Manzano seeds several time and none sprouted.
But the ones I sent to someone else did.
I can get the Manzano here on a regular basis so it is off my list of peppers to grow.
I just ate five of them the other day and some were in the beans I cooked.

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Old June 12, 2016   #814
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That was the only pepper that did not sprout for me. They seem to be very difficult to germinate.
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Old June 12, 2016   #815
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Did you ever hear about elephant fencing?
In Africa and India the farmers have a heck of a time with elephants trampling their crops.
So the fencing I heard about, it's a single rope at about elephant eye level.
The rope is soaked in a mixture of hot pepper, tobacco and used engine oil (or something similar).
Elephants won't touch it or cross it.

Oh and there's an even better one - a beehive fence!
Could be less fun in your own garden of course.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141...-off-elephants
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Old June 12, 2016   #816
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All I know is I have a very well protected safe shooting field behind my house and no one lives within it.
In other words hills.
I also know how to hunker down and have people and deer walk right over the top of me and never know it.
I know this because I have done it several times.
There will be deer meat in my freezer this fall.
I might even use a net.
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maybe out "Hostess with the mostest' the neighbour with the deer feeder and set up a special

deer picnic table for them to use as well right In your yard !
They should be right friendly maybe even jump right into the freezer eventually .
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Old June 13, 2016   #818
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Not that this would work on a buck with a big rack, but I have always wondered if I could jump out of a tree, tackle a doe, and choke her out with a rear naked choke. That would be one manly way to kill a deer.
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maybe out "Hostess with the mostest' the neighbour with the deer feeder and set up a special

deer picnic table for them to use as well right In your yard !
They should be right friendly maybe even jump right into the freezer eventually .
I have considered it for sure.

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Not that this would work on a buck with a big rack, but I have always wondered if I could jump out of a tree, tackle a doe, and choke her out with a rear naked choke. That would be one manly way to kill a deer.
You better put a leg lock on it too or you will end up cut to hell by the hooves.
I bet you would even get bit.
I have ran down and hand caught small wild game before it is unreal how strong they are.

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Good point. The leg lock is called "sinking the hooks." Otherwise, the other guy...or deer...just flips you over their back.
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Old June 13, 2016   #821
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I had a big tom cat Sylvester that would sink the hooks in big mean dogs.
Somehow he would end up on their back with his fangs sunk between their eyes.
The dogs were expecting him to run.
He didn't run.
The dogs stopped chasing cats.
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Maybe in the future we could breed Tomatoes with cats like Sylvester ...

I know this is not in the spirit of heritage ...non GMO culture ......etc. BUT...

One good thing about this genetic mash up.. the Tomato could protect them selves better......LOL

One bad thing about this mash up.. they would be prone to "Catfacing "
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Maybe in the future we could breed Tomatoes with cats like Sylvester ...

I know this is not in the spirit of heritage ...non GMO culture ......etc. BUT...

One good thing about this genetic mash up.. the Tomato could protect them selves better......LOL

One bad thing about this mash up.. they would be prone to "Catfacing "
I have had three cats that reacted the way I reacted.
Sylvester Cruiser and Big T.
If a dog or person was welcomed on my property they were fine.
If in any way I acted like I didn't want them on my property they would run them off.

Just now I saw the mama deer with her new baby on the back side of my place.

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Old June 15, 2016   #824
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Given enough time Dwarf Sweet Sue will get red blushing on the outside blossom end and some red streaking on the inside.
No pictures as I ate them.

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I have considered it for sure.


You better put a leg lock on it too or you will end up cut to hell by the hooves.
I bet you would even get bit.
I have ran down and hand caught small wild game before it is unreal how strong they are.

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I had this idea that I was going to rope a deer, put it in a stall, feed it up on corn for a couple of weeks, then kill it and eat it.

The first step in this adventure was getting a deer. I figured that, since they congregate at my cattle feeder and do not seem to have much fear of me when we are there (a bold one will sometimes come right up and sniff at the bags of feed while I am in the back of the truck not 4 feet away), it should not be difficult to rope one, get up to it and toss a bag over its head (to calm it down) then hog tie it and transport it home.

I filled the cattle feeder then hid down at the end with my rope.

The cattle, having seen the roping thing before, stayed well back. They were not having any of it.

After about 20 minutes, my deer showed up -- 3 of them. I picked out a likely looking one, stepped out from the end of the feeder, and threw my rope. The deer just stood there and stared at me.

I wrapped the rope around my waist and twisted the end so I would have a good hold. The deer still just stood and stared at me, but you could tell it was mildly concerned about the whole rope situation.

I took a step towards it...it took a step away. I put a little tension on the rope and then received an education.

The first thing that I learned is that, while a deer may just stand there looking at you funny while you rope it, they are spurred to action when you start pulling on that rope.

That deer EXPLODED.

The second thing I learned is that pound for pound, a deer is a LOT stronger than a cow or a colt. A cow or a colt in that weight range I could fight down with a rope and with some dignity.

A deer -- no chance.

That thing ran and bucked and twisted and pulled. There was no controlling it and certainly no getting close to it. As it jerked me off my feet and started dragging me across the ground, it occurred to me that having a deer on a rope was not nearly as good an idea as I had originally imagined.

The only upside is that they do not have as much stamina as many other animals.

A brief 10 minutes later, it was tired and not nearly as quick to jerk me off my feet and drag me when I managed to get up. It took me a few minutes to realize this, since I was mostly blinded by the blood flowing out of the big gash in my head. At that point, I had lost my taste for corn-fed venison. I just wanted to get that devil creature off the end of that rope.

I figured if I just let it go with the rope hanging around its neck, it would likely die slow and painfully somewhere. At the time, there was no love at all between me and that deer. At that moment, I hated the thing, and I would venture a guess that the feeling was mutual.

Despite the gash in my head and the several large knots where I had cleverly arrested the deer's momentum by bracing my head against various large rocks as it dragged me across the ground, I could still think clearly enough to recognize that there was a small chance that I shared some tiny amount of responsibility for the situation we were in, so I didn't want the deer to have to suffer a slow death, so I managed to get it lined back up in between my truck and the feeder - a little trap I had set before hand....kind of like a squeeze chute.

I got it to back in there and I started moving up so I could get my rope back.

Did you know that deer bite? They do! I never in a million years would have thought that a deer would bite somebody, so I was very surprised when I reached up there to grab that rope and the deer grabbed hold of my wrist.

Now, when a deer bites you, it is not like being bit by a horse where they just bite you and then let go. A deer bites you and shakes its head --almost like a pit bull. They bite HARD and it hurts.

The proper thing to do when a deer bites you is probably to freeze and draw back slowly. I tried screaming and shaking instead. My method was ineffective. It seems like the deer was biting and shaking for several minutes, but it was likely only several seconds.

I, being smarter than a deer (though you may be questioning that claim by now), tricked it.

While I kept it busy tearing the tendons out of my right arm, I reached up with my left hand and pulled that rope loose. That was when I got my final lesson in deer behavior for the day.

Deer will strike at you with their front feet. They rear right up on their back feet and strike right about head and shoulder level, and their hooves are surprisingly sharp. I learned a long time ago that, when an animal -- like a horse --strikes at you with their hooves and you can't get away easily, the best thing to do is try to make a loud noise and make an aggressive move towards the animal. This will usually cause them to back down a bit so you can escape.

This was not a horse. This was a deer, so obviously, such trickery would not work. In the course of a millisecond, I devised a different strategy. I screamed like a woman and tried to turn and run.

The reason I had always been told NOT to try to turn and run from a horse that paws at you is that there is a good chance that it will hit you in the back of the head. Deer may not be so different from horses after all, besides being twice as strong and 3 times as evil, because the second I turned to run, it hit me right in the back of the head and knocked me down.

Now, when a deer paws at you and knocks you down, it does not immediately leave. I suspect it does not recognize that the danger has passed. What they do instead is paw your back and jump up and down on you while you are laying there crying like a little girl and covering your head.

I finally managed to crawl under the truck and the deer went away.

So now I know why when people go deer hunting they bring a rifle with a scope to sort of even the odds.
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