Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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December 13, 2015 | #46 | |
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December 13, 2015 | #47 |
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December 13, 2015 | #48 |
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muahahahaha the illicit underground tomato seed trade!
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December 13, 2015 | #49 | |
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In my opinion, it is quite wrong to generalize that hybrids available to home growers are less tasty than OPs. Taste is of course individual, and for me, I find many of the hybrids to be just as tasty as the OPs. The breeders who produced the great hybrids like Big Beef F1 and Sun Gold F1 did not focus their efforts on storage & shipping and they produced tomatoes which really taste great. I grow both types - 27 hybrid varieties and 24 OP varieties last summer - so I taste many examples of both through the season. My favourite early tomatoes are Stupice & 0-33, both OPs. My favourite mid season tomatoes are Steak Sandwich F1 & Big Beef F1. As we know, others may not agree with me. :-) In general, I find hybrids produce more fruit, but will not attempt to quantify this since I don't record weights. I have read some published papers where yields from hybrids were reported up to 40% higher than OPs - Joseph provided a few of these links last year so you can read them if you wish, and I sense this advantage is what he is chasing with his exposed stigma project. Within the group of OPs I grow, only a few of the modern Russian varieties are nearly as productive for me. Good luck choosing. Last edited by RJGlew; December 13, 2015 at 11:01 PM. Reason: Readability |
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December 13, 2015 | #50 |
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Fred, best of luck with the hybrid project, and totally hear you on the common sense that the business has to be self-supporting.
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December 21, 2015 | #51 | |
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December 21, 2015 | #52 |
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Thanks Dutch. I appreciate the kind words. I'm trying!
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December 21, 2015 | #53 |
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December 21, 2015 | #54 |
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Then there is the guy in New Zealand where the plant police showed up at his door, pulled up his plants in the garden, and gave him a summons to appear in court for his "crimes".
Folks, please think carefully about sharing seed across national boundaries, particularly where diseases can be so easily spread. We do NOT need more invasive species and invasive diseases limiting what we can grow! |
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December 21, 2015 | #56 | |
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December 21, 2015 | #57 | |
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On the slippery slope scale, I would feel quite comfortable purchasing something from Johnny's or any other reputable vendor and sending it off to him in SA, surreptitiously or otherwise. Now if it's something I saved in my backyard and there is a small chance (a real chance, not theoretical) that viruses are associated with it, then no, I would probably not do it. |
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Here is one of the best posts about 1/2 way down. I couldn't stop laughing. Quote:
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Too many more to list. Edited to add: One last honorable mention, just because I love puns. Quote:
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December 23, 2015 | #59 |
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Thanks for the laughs, Scott.
I needed that! I feel much better now! Dutch
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December 23, 2015 | #60 |
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Yeah Scott,
Had to stop and wipe the bits of my sandwich off the screen.... I blame it on the lettuce. |
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