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Old August 18, 2015   #31
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Around here, for the second year, Wes, a red heart, takes the prize. Not acidic, particularly, just incredibly rich and complex.
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Old August 18, 2015   #32
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Around here, for the second year, Wes, a red heart, takes the prize. Not acidic, particularly, just incredibly rich and complex.
How was Wes' yield?

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Old August 18, 2015   #33
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For me, intense indicates a flavor that makes me say,"Wow, that's a good tomato." Intense flavor can be one overriding flavor either tart or sweet, or several different taste buds working at the same time or in series meaning aftertaste.

I enjoy the intensity of a sweet tomato more than a tart one. This year the sweet ones with intense flavor are: 1884 Purple, Bear Claw, Blue Ridge Mountain, Delicious, Believe It Or Not and Kellogg's Breakfast/KBX. My all time complex intensely flavored tomato is Old Brooks.
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How was Wes' yield?

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It's not the best producer, I'd say, but certainly not the worst. I prune to two stems, so that might cut production some, but Wes also makes some big hearts, as big as a pound and a half, give or take. It's the only one a pesky vole ate, of all the low-hanging fruit it had to choose from, so that's gotta tell you something!
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Ginny, I'm curious how Fred's Tie Dye compares in intensity to Pink Berkeley Tie Dye? Fred's is a dwarf with PBT in its lineage.

Oh that's a good question. Maybe Fred or somebody else on here would know?

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Old August 18, 2015   #36
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I've been enjoying the Cherokee Purples this year, as well as the Ananas Noires.. Although I don't think Noire would qualify as "intense," I find them moderately sweet and delicately delicious lol.. I found Isis Candys to be wonderfully sweet, but very disease prone (IMLE). My favorite cherry of the year would have to be black cherry (one of yours as well!).. I'm also enjoying Pork Chop (second year with it). German Strawberry was a unique tomato, but not one I'd rush back to apart from the novelty of it. . So to conform to the "intense" requirement of the thread I'd have to go with Black Cherry..
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Around here, for the second year, Wes, a red heart, takes the prize. Not acidic, particularly, just incredibly rich and complex.

More evidence that there is no right answer when it comes to flavor! I thought Wes was good, but a bit bland compared to others when I grew it last year. Personal taste buds, location and growing conditions all play in.

I tasted one of the most intensely flavored tomatoes yet, in my opinion--Moravsky Div. All the first fruit the plant set in June (while we were away for almost three weeks) had BER. The second round is just starting to ripen and I finally got to taste one tonight. Initial impression was that it was similar to taking a sip of an intense, rich and bold red wine.
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Old August 19, 2015   #38
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I tasted one of the most intensely flavored tomatoes yet, in my opinion--Moravsky Div... Initial impression was that it was similar to taking a sip of an intense, rich and bold red wine.]
How nice, when I first grew Black Cherry years ago, wine-like was my description of them as well. Im growing Black Cherry again after a long hiaitus. Mine got off to a late start this year and are just starting to ripen. Fingers crossed....

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This year I had two distinct periods the first was early before it got too hot and when there was adequate rainfall. During that period Giant Belgium, German Johnson, Couilles de Taureau, Dester, Cowlick's Brandywine and Sudduth's were the most intense.

The second period was a long hot dry spell and the most intensely flavored tomatoes during that time were Indian Stripe, Indian Stripe PL, JD's Special C Tex, Spudakee, Couilles de Taureau, Neves Azorean Red and Giant Belgium.

I'm sure I'll have some different ones topping the flavor charts during the fall.

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The best red tomato I ate this summer was a Peiping Chieh, a variety that had made me mad all summer with its catfacing and BER. I hadn't watered the high tunnel in a couple of weeks. I just happened to try a fruit as I was pulling out the plant. It reminded me of Red Barn.
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I just now read the first page of this thread, and while I saw a couple dozen names of tomatoes I have grown and tasted, many of which are excellent tomatoes, I have to conclude that some peoples' ideas of "intensely flavored" tomatoes are diametrically opposite of my own taste perceptions.

I saw many bland, sweet, and moderately flavored tomatoes called out as intensely flavored. I saw one or two that I agree are intensely flavored. And I have a keen sense of flavor developed over the past 11 years of non-smoking of tobacco.

Just goes to prove that taste is highly subjective, especially when it comes to intensely flavored tomatoes, which I assume to have meant tomatoes with significant acid bite balanced by sufficient sweetness and certainly possessing a strong tomato aroma.

No wonder supermarket tomatoes continue to sell like hotcakes!
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Old August 20, 2015   #42
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Neves Azorean Red, Daniels, Bolseno F1 ...
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Old August 20, 2015   #43
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I just now read the first page of this thread, and while I saw a couple dozen names of tomatoes I have grown and tasted, many of which are excellent tomatoes, I have to conclude that some peoples' ideas of "intensely flavored" tomatoes are diametrically opposite of my own taste perceptions.

I saw many bland, sweet, and moderately flavored tomatoes called out as intensely flavored. I saw one or two that I agree are intensely flavored. And I have a keen sense of flavor developed over the past 11 years of non-smoking of tobacco.

Just goes to prove that taste is highly subjective, especially when it comes to intensely flavored tomatoes, which I assume to have meant tomatoes with significant acid bite balanced by sufficient sweetness and certainly possessing a strong tomato aroma.

No wonder supermarket tomatoes continue to sell like hotcakes!
Except for the personal low blow comment about smoking, I agree with whats you've said. I can't say how many times I've said that a single variety that someone likes, tangy or not, is NOT liked by others.

Taste is personal and perceptual and even has some human genetic factors involved as well as all the other variables that can influence taste in any one season.

But speaking of aroma, there's one variety that I can ID just by smelling the aroma of cut slices and that's Prue, which I love but IMO is not a tangy variety.

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Well, maybe to nonsmokers that aromatic Prue has a more pronounced TANG
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Well, maybe to nonsmokers that aromatic Prue has a more pronounced TANG
So try it yourself non-smoker Sir William, and see what you think.

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