The Next Big Thing in the Tomato World - Page 3

Fusion_power · April 1, 2015

Near term, a sweet and tasty saladette tomato that brix 14 and tastes like tropical fruit blended with brandywine tomato. How far are we from having it? At most 2 more generations of growing out plants.

Longer term, there are a ton of improvements we can make in disease and pest tolerance and flavor.

heirloomtomaguy · April 1, 2015

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Originally Posted by Fusion_power

Near term, a sweet and tasty saladette tomato that brix 14 and tastes like tropical fruit blended with brandywine tomato. How far are we from having it? At most 2 more generations of growing out plants.

Longer term, there are a ton of improvements we can make in disease and pest tolerance and flavor.

So Fusion tell me more about this nearly op tomato you speak of and how do i get seed?

travis · April 1, 2015

A series of 4 to 5 foot tall, self pruning, semi-determinates with multiple disease resistances, long shelf life, high vitamin content, heirloom looks, crack free, hotset, low temp tolerant, and fruit in various sizes, colors, and variable degrees of sweet/tart balance with full tomato flavor.

**carolyn137** · April 1, 2015

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Originally Posted by travis

A series of 4 to 5 foot tall, self pruning, semi-determinates with multiple disease resistances, long shelf life, high vitamin content, heirloom looks, crack free, hotset, low temp tolerant, and fruit in various sizes, colors, and variable degrees of sweet/tart balance with full tomato flavor.

Is that all you want?

Not a problem, I'll send you some seeds.

Carolyn

travis · April 2, 2015

Getting close here.

If I live long enough, I'll send you seeds.

parah · April 2, 2015

There are lots of tomato varieties that make Icicle shaped tomato fruit like Green Sausage, how about a blue one?

Bonus points if it is tasty.

AZGardener · April 2, 2015

The grafting seems to be gaining momentum? I just saw (for the first time) $16 Mighty Mato Tomato plants at our local nursery. I personally wouldn't pay that much but the idea of grafting a hybrid with an heirloom is very exciting to me. Also, a good tasting blue variety would be great! I haven't had one yet that I liked... I know those who don't grow tomatoes are totally fascinated with the blues... They LOOK awesome...

**carolyn137** · April 2, 2015

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Originally Posted by AZGardener

The grafting seems to be gaining momentum? I just saw (for the first time) $16 Mighty Mato Tomato plants at our local nursery. I personally wouldn't pay that much but the idea of grafting a hybrid with an heirloom is very exciting to me. Also, a good tasting blue variety would be great! I haven't had one yet that I liked... I know those who don't grow tomatoes are totally fascinated with the blues... They LOOK awesome...

Assuming the root stock has tolerances, no such thing as total resistance, to several soil borne diseases, which they do, and one lives in an area where they are prevalent it might make some sense. But the most common tomato diseases worldwide are the foliage diseases so grafting an heirloom tomato to such rootstocks IMO doesn't make much sense for lots of tomato growers.

As to the claimed increase in fruit yield, I remain unconvinced as to those claims.

Carolyn

NarnianGarden · April 2, 2015

Agreeing with the OP, I believe the next big thing will be different colored stripes, speckles and all variations of these, in many different color combinations.
Blue ones are already having their heyday but I believe it is a passing fad - unless there will be blue varieties as tasty as the black and yellow/oranges...

charline · April 3, 2015

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Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Blue ones are already having their heyday but I believe it is a passing fad - unless there will be blue varieties as tasty as the black and yellow/oranges...

there is already a very good tasting blue variety: Amethyst Jewel

charline · April 3, 2015

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Originally Posted by NarnianGarden

Agreeing with the OP, I believe the next big thing will be different colored stripes, speckles and all variations of these, in many different color combinations.

they are in the make....
http://frogsleapfarm.blogspot.de/

efisakov · April 3, 2015

Tomatoes named Candy, Chocolate, Sweet and so on.
I wish, I hope they will taste so. There are many sweet tomatoes, there are none taste like chocolate...

NarnianGarden · April 3, 2015

Yes charline, I don't doubt Amethyst jewel tastes good..

I have been blessed to grow some of the frogleapfarms' varieties, also a few from Artisan seeds.
No doubt the trend continues to rise and bring on even more amazing ones with even more elaborate patterns.

bower · April 5, 2015

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Originally Posted by travis

A series of 4 to 5 foot tall, self pruning, semi-determinates with multiple disease resistances, long shelf life, high vitamin content, heirloom looks, crack free, hotset, low temp tolerant, and fruit in various sizes, colors, and variable degrees of sweet/tart balance with full tomato flavor.

Shucks, when this happens my tomato quest will be over!

PS did you forget to mention high yield and (relatively) early bearing?

bluee19 · April 5, 2015

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Originally Posted by Irv Wiseguy

Square tomatoes. They'll be easier to stack for store displays.

Irv

That would be wonderful if there were square tomatoes because the bread I eat are squared shape. Hoping it will be available during my lifetime

April 3, 2015	#42
efisakov Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NJ, zone 7 Posts: 3,162	Tomatoes named Candy, Chocolate, Sweet and so on. I wish, I hope they will taste so. There are many sweet tomatoes, there are none taste like chocolate... __________________ Ella God comes along and says, "I think I'm going to create THE tomato!”

April 1, 2015	#31
Fusion_power Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,250	Near term, a sweet and tasty saladette tomato that brix 14 and tastes like tropical fruit blended with brandywine tomato. How far are we from having it? At most 2 more generations of growing out plants. Longer term, there are a ton of improvements we can make in disease and pest tolerance and flavor.

April 1, 2015	#33
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	A series of 4 to 5 foot tall, self pruning, semi-determinates with multiple disease resistances, long shelf life, high vitamin content, heirloom looks, crack free, hotset, low temp tolerant, and fruit in various sizes, colors, and variable degrees of sweet/tart balance with full tomato flavor.

April 2, 2015	#35
travis Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 2,984	Getting close here. If I live long enough, I'll send you seeds.

April 2, 2015	#36
parah Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Asia Posts: 152	There are lots of tomato varieties that make Icicle shaped tomato fruit like Green Sausage, how about a blue one? Bonus points if it is tasty.

April 2, 2015	#37
AZGardener Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Zone 9b Phoenix,AZ Posts: 390	The grafting seems to be gaining momentum? I just saw (for the first time) $16 Mighty Mato Tomato plants at our local nursery. I personally wouldn't pay that much but the idea of grafting a hybrid with an heirloom is very exciting to me. Also, a good tasting blue variety would be great! I haven't had one yet that I liked... I know those who don't grow tomatoes are totally fascinated with the blues... They LOOK awesome...

April 2, 2015	#39
NarnianGarden Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Finland, EU Posts: 2,550	Agreeing with the OP, I believe the next big thing will be different colored stripes, speckles and all variations of these, in many different color combinations. Blue ones are already having their heyday but I believe it is a passing fad - unless there will be blue varieties as tasty as the black and yellow/oranges...