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Old March 29, 2009   #31
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Makes me want to go spray my seedlings with neem
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Old March 29, 2009   #32
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Kat, dont know that neem would make a difference if you are dealing with TYLCV, but I am not that educated on it as of yet. That will change as I want to know as much as possible about what I might be dealing with.
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Old March 29, 2009   #33
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I wonder if Neem works on the white fly that is supposed to be the possible vector according to the posted website?
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Old March 30, 2009   #34
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Makes me want to go spray my seedlings with neem
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I mix one tablespoon of Murphy's Oil Soap in a gallon of water and spray plants (leaves and all) with the mixture every other day, whether they look like they need it or not. This I have found to be very helpful in deterring alot of unknown bugs that can damage my plants. The soap desiccates the bugs fast (To cause to dry out thoroughly). It may leach into the soil; but that in turn kills the slugs too. Then the rain washes it all away. Therefore the constant applications.

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Interesting about the Murphys oil soap, never heard of that
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Crush 2 adult asprins and sprinkle at the bottom of your planting hole along with crushed egg shells and 1 lb fish. Add compost and soil 3 inches and place plant and backfill.

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Yes, all that old wives tales stuff will even fix TYLCV and TSWV. Amazing!
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Interesting about the Murphys oil soap, never heard of that
Any kind of soap will kill soft-shelled insects on contact. However it must be reapplied almost daily. And spraying neem oil, soap, etc. over 85 degrees or on plants that will be in direct sun within a few hours will damage the leaves. So it becomes almost impossible to use these products in late April, May, and June unless you wake up at 5am and spray every day.
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Well Morgan,

Sometimes I'm up at 1AM, other times throughout the night. I have Sleep Apnea too. Surgery and the CPAP didn't do a good enough job for me. Having RLS doesn't help either. So I can get to them at all hours of the night. I just remember to bring Toastie/Tootsie, my dog; everywhere with me (she's my shadow anyway.) For the nighttime creatures outside. She makes for a good alert/alarm system.

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I wish I would dedicate that much time to my plants (and at all hours). I'm just lazy.

Sorry CPAP isn't helping you the way you hoped. My dad had Sleep Apnea but did not like the machine at all.
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[Aspirin and plant viruses]

Hey Feldon:
http://www.plantcell.org/cgi/content/abstract/9/4/547

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Will spraying tomato plants with an aspirin solution kill an active
TYLCV, TMV, or other plant virus infection? Not likely. Completely
disposing of infected plants off the property as soon as one sees
the symptoms is wise advice.

Will spraying nearby plants that are not obviously already infected help
them resist it? It may. Raising the natural levels of the active ingredient
in aspirin (salicylic acid) in plants causes them to increase production of
chemicals that are hostile to plant viruses. It is cheap enough to do just
in case it saves one good plant.

Will a soil drench work just as well as a foliar spray? Unknown. (I would do
both, in case one works better than the other.)

Will dropping an aspirin in the planting hole before transplanting do the
same thing (will it survive enzymes in the soil in a form usable by the
plant long enough for plants to take it up by the roots)? Unknown.

How often should I reapply it? Unknown.

How much should I use? Your guess is as good as mine. I would use it
in moderation, a couple of 500mg aspirin tables dissolved in a gallon
of warm water. Try it on a healthy plant first that will not be a major
tragedy if you kill it by accident. If it reacts badly to the aspirin spray
or soil drench, use less.
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Old March 30, 2009   #41
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Thanks for that Info on Aspirin Dice!

I googled it: Aspirin and plants there's a whole lot of Info there!

I had known about salicylic acid before; but not the whys, now I know better.

It helps plants develop roots, when you root cuttings; Grandma said - in the year 1958.

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I think I would soak cut-up willow shoots in water for a couple
of days for the cuttings. That will contain both salycilic acid
and indole-3-butyric-acid (IBA), a plant growth stimulant that
is used by some as a cloning dip to stimulate root growth from
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Can't find any willows here dice. The nice fortresses have them though. I've been driving by them several times throughout the weeks; looking for some cuttings to use for various things.

I saw them for sale at HD here; I might buy one this week. I'll keep it in a large pot and keep it as a 6 footer.

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Interesting thread this has turned out to be. Meanwhile, I did send a sample to Texas Agrilife Extension Service today and they should recieve it tomorrow. While it did cost me some, I really want confirmation concerning this issue. I strongly believe that TYLCV is what I am dealing with but would like some peace of mind in knowing what I have. I dont know how long it will take for them to send me results but I will post as soon as I recieve them.

From what I have read this is not a seed borne virus. If anyone has other thoughts I would love to hear it.
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Noticed this morning that Green Giant now may be showing signs of the same problem. Will have to keep a close eye on it for the next few days. I am praying that I dont lose anymore plants
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