my evolving grow list for 2013

[Alpinejs]

One more opinion.....
I would go with KBX since I feel that and Kelloggs are the same tomato, but better
production on KBX.

I would eliminate Stupice only because I was not wild about it.

I would also eliminate Burpee's Big Boy. (see above)

Now, to prove what little value there is to an exercise like this, I would eliminate ALL
the cherries.

That said, I think you have a lot of great ones on your list.

[greyghost]

Jeff, it will be interesting to see if you note any difference between your
RL and PL fruit (or even multiples of one leaf type). The first year I grew
these, I grew 9 plants. Six were PL and 3 were RL. The fruits from all
looked identical. I really couldn't see a difference in taste, either. On some
days, I'd think one was a bit more "assertive" than another only to have it
reverse on a different day. I grew purchased Dixiewine seeds last year
and I still didn't see a difference in fruit from it vs my 2 PL and 1 RL.
Same thing happened, I'd think one was a hair better only to change
my mind the next day.

Try the Oxi-clean method again (it's the powder product). While I think fermentation is great for larger amounts of seed, this method is great
when you're saving just a few or as I often do, save from an especially
attractive fruit (I know this doesn't make sense genetically but it makes
me feel good!). There have been times when I've slipped up and forgotten
so seeds precessed close to an hour and i've still had good germination so
I'm not so sure that could have been a factor.

This method is great if you're not in full control of your schedule, too. Up
until a couple of years ago, we had a boat on the Chesapeake which raised
havoc with processing seeds on certain days. Anyway, try again if you
feel it's an easier method for you. I'm glad you did a germination test
and found out ahead of time something went awry.

My husband, who's always asking why I don't just find a round, red tomato
to grow, was really impressed with Dixiewine. He said he'd be happy if it
was the only one I grew. I had to laugh at the sesame seed incident.
Believe me, I know what it's like to live with a non-gardener!

For what it's worth, I've read elsewhere that a pink version of this cross
will be offered soon with the name of McMurray #10. It's from the same
cross Bill Jeffers did; seeds grown out by Dan McMurray and this particular
one was selected as the best by Dan. Bill has done further growouts.
If anyone's interested. a google search may show when it's available.
Dan was very much respected and loved by many and some who knew him
may be interested in this variety. I wish I had known Dan and am a big
Bill Jeffers fan so I'm hoping to get some seed of this.

Darlene

[TightenUp]

have you tested for germination within a few days of the seeds drying? i'm thinking maybe if i waited a little longer maybe they would have dried out a bit more and i would have gotten germination???

just to update i got my seed order so the tomatoes at the bottom of my list can now officially be factored in

cher choc, goose creek and POTT will most likely be added to the list. new yorker could replace stupice for something on the early side and soldacki looks sooo good it will be hard not growing it

green grape...any opinions?

[carolyn137]

Originally Posted by TightenUp

have you tested for germination within a few days of the seeds drying? i'm thinking maybe if i waited a little longer maybe they would have dried out a bit more and i would have gotten germination???

just to update i got my seed order so the tomatoes at the bottom of my list can now officially be factored in

cher choc, goose creek and POTT will most likely be added to the list. new yorker could replace stupice for something on the early side and soldacki looks sooo good it will be hard not growing it

green grape...any opinions?

I grew Green Grape, bred by Tom Wagner, for many years and it was the only green when ripe cherry at the time. Then it morphed from indet to determinate and the yield and taste was not there as before and Tom noticed that for himself when he was in the Netherlands at a tomato display.

But when Green Doctors appeared and its clear skinned cousin Green Doctors Frosted, I was sold and other than Verde Claro, an oval kinda a cherry with clear skin that Tom also bred and I trialed for him back in the mid-90's, those are the only green when ripe cherries that I'll grow.

Carolyn

[Tania]

Jeff,

My opinion is that Green Doctors are better tasting green cherry compared to Green Grapes. But Aunt Ruby's German Green Cherry and Emerald are much better tasting than Green Doctors in my garden. Emerald is higher yielding and a bit earlier than ARGG Cherry, and it is my favorite green so far.

[TightenUp]

nice photo!!!

maybe i'll pass on the green grape. i have too many cherries anyway.

[greyghost]

Jeff, Once or twice I've noticed newly processed seeds took maybe a week
when the original took 3 days to germinate. I attributed it to the fact that I
started the original in the house on a heat mat vs. outside on the deck which
could have much cooler nighttime temps. I don't do a whole lot of germ. checks so don't have a really definitive answer to your question.

[TightenUp]

Originally Posted by greyghost

Jeff, Once or twice I've noticed newly processed seeds took maybe a week
when the original took 3 days to germinate. I attributed it to the fact that I
started the original in the house on a heat mat vs. outside on the deck which
could have much cooler nighttime temps. I don't do a whole lot of germ. checks so don't have a really definitive answer to your question.

thanks

i rocked the paper towel on cable box method for well over a week and got nothing. i'm not sure why? i used the powdered oxiclean, even did a search to make sure i used the right stuff. only thing i could come up with was the seeds weren't completely dry.....i dunno. i wont give up on the method, but if it comes down to a last resort i will use the fermentation method.