The Next Big Thing in the Tomato World - Page 2

Redbaron · March 25, 2015

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Originally Posted by Gardeneer

If really it has to be a break through, has to be a GMO. But a lot of people are negative about it.

Well I am testing a potential breakthrough this year, and it isn't a GMO. Potentially it could be as big a breakthrough as Mycorrhizal fungi. Imagine an inoculate that could be added to seeds that turn your old heirloom variety into a drought resistant and more productive cultivar...and you could add it to any cultivar? I am field trialing just such an endophyte on my peppers tomatoes and sweet corn!

linzelu100 · March 25, 2015

A blue tomato that tastes good.

bughunter99 · March 25, 2015

I would love to see:

-A tasty true white tomato with purple stripes.
-A tasty true white tomato with metallic green striping.
-A tasty green tomato with red stripes that red when its ripe.
-Stakeless upright tomato that tops out at 5 feet AND has beautiful full very bluish leaves.
-A tasty blue tomato with yellow striping.
-Very early (50 days) described as excellent taste that thrives in the north.
-A tasty any color completely resistant to bacterial speck.
-Tasty varieties that do well with partial sun and even prefer it.
Tasty plants gorgeous enough to be used as edible landscaping in the front yard of a snotty neighborhood.

Stacy

**carolyn137** · March 25, 2015

I decided to go a different direction and here's what I'm considering doing.

I'm going to subcontract out to some local growers to do some grafting for me, three per plant, and the rootstock will be Celebrity F1 which has been shown to be an excellent rootstock, actually no need for the disease tolerances it has if I'm only going to sell plants near where I live since not much soilborne disease here, but I may change my mind if I decide to expand this project.

Each grafted plant will have three similar varieties, such as all hearts, all pink beefsteaks, all red beefsteaks, all GWRipes, all pastes , all yellow/oranges and all cherries.

So with maybe 7 plants the grower will have a fantastic selection of tomato varieties.

The project is in it's infancy, there are other pssibilities as well, as to three grafts/plant from different countries, etc.

And of course I will supply seeds for the rootstock as well as all varieties to be used.

Pricing/plant? Who knows right now, to be decided after I see how things progress.

Carolyn

PaulF · March 25, 2015

Is grafting better for the south where apparently there are more disease problems? Grafting seems to be the latest thing but I don't know why.

Stvrob · March 25, 2015

I think its only a matter of time before they are able to genetically enginner a tomato to grow little bitty watermelons and cantalopes.

JamesL · March 25, 2015

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Originally Posted by carolyn137

I decided to go a different direction and here's what I'm considering doing.

I'm going to subcontract out to some local growers to do some grafting for me, three per plant, and the rootstock will be Celebrity F1 which has been shown to be an excellent rootstock, actually no need for the disease tolerances it has if I'm only going to sell plants near where I live since not much soilborne disease here, but I may change my mind if I decide to expand this project.

Each grafted plant will have three similar varieties, such as all hearts, all pink beefsteaks, all red beefsteaks, all GWRipes, all pastes , all yellow/oranges and all cherries.

So with maybe 7 plants the grower will have a fantastic selection of tomato varieties.

The project is in it's infancy, there are other pssibilities as well, as to three grafts/plant from different countries, etc.

And of course I will supply seeds for the rootstock as well as all varieties to be used.

Pricing/plant? Who knows right now, to be decided after I see how things progress.

Carolyn

"Triple Play" grafts! Love it Carolyn!

Although maybe you are thinking more of a "stacked" or petiole graft with the inclusion of the rootstock.

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Originally Posted by PaulF

Is grafting better for the south where apparently there are more disease problems? Grafting seems to be the latest thing but I don't know why.

Paul,
Definitely more soil borne issues down south as the freezing temps up north help to keep them at a minimum.
Grafting has definitely become more mainstream, even more so now that Bonnie's sells grafted plants at almost every big box store. (not advocating Bonnie's in any way)

Tim Cushing · March 25, 2015

I would like to learn to breed my own varieties, as I would like to see if I can develop more heat and drought tolerant varieties for the Southwest. I see potential in the wild relatives of S. Lycopersicum.

With that in mind, I have found that many of the so-called "cold-tolerant" varieties actually do very well here in Tucson!

PA_Julia · March 25, 2015

I'm the next big thing.....Giant tomato wise that is.

LindyAdele · March 25, 2015

Grafting is really intresting idea, one I want to play with someday.living in a city I have limited space...if 5 plants could yield 10 different, or 15 different tomatoes I woud be in heaven!

It sounds like many peo0le are trying to solve some basic problems of drought and disease, but without sacrificing taste.

rhines81 · March 25, 2015

It'd be real nice if they would develop a tomato "tree" that you could tap like a Maple to get the sauce!

tuncse · March 29, 2015

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Originally Posted by green_go

I'm hoping one day to see:

1. Frost-tolerant tomato - so I could plant them in the ground in April and wouldn't care about night frosts

2. Perennial tomato - the one which would die down to the ground in late fall and then sprout back in spring - bigger and stronger than previous year, sort of like a peony bush.
3. Long-keeper good tasting tomato which can last let's say till January and still taste great.
.........
Maybe, "glow-in-the-dark" tomato?

My son would be happy for sure.

I saw a couple of days ago someone is selling perennial tomato seeds on Aliexpress. Has anyone tried these tomatoes?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/prod...866640167.html

Salsacharley · March 29, 2015

As long as this is becoming wished for next big things, why not wish for a breeding or genetic procedure that transfers the desired characteristics of strong rootstocks to regular favorite tomato varieties.

Garf · March 31, 2015

I'm still looking for something that can survive a summer here in the swamps of Miami, Florida.

ginger2778 · March 31, 2015

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Originally Posted by Garf

I'm still looking for something that can survive a summer here in the swamps of Miami, Florida.

If you find it, let me know!

March 25, 2015	#17
linzelu100 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Virginia Posts: 447	A blue tomato that tastes good. __________________ Lindsey

March 25, 2015	#18
bughunter99 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: zone 5 Posts: 821	I would love to see: -A tasty true white tomato with purple stripes. -A tasty true white tomato with metallic green striping. -A tasty green tomato with red stripes that red when its ripe. -Stakeless upright tomato that tops out at 5 feet AND has beautiful full very bluish leaves. -A tasty blue tomato with yellow striping. -Very early (50 days) described as excellent taste that thrives in the north. -A tasty any color completely resistant to bacterial speck. -Tasty varieties that do well with partial sun and even prefer it. Tasty plants gorgeous enough to be used as edible landscaping in the front yard of a snotty neighborhood. Stacy Last edited by bughunter99; March 25, 2015 at 09:29 AM.

March 25, 2015	#19
carolyn137 Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Upstate NY, zone 4b/5a Posts: 21,169	I decided to go a different direction and here's what I'm considering doing. I'm going to subcontract out to some local growers to do some grafting for me, three per plant, and the rootstock will be Celebrity F1 which has been shown to be an excellent rootstock, actually no need for the disease tolerances it has if I'm only going to sell plants near where I live since not much soilborne disease here, but I may change my mind if I decide to expand this project. Each grafted plant will have three similar varieties, such as all hearts, all pink beefsteaks, all red beefsteaks, all GWRipes, all pastes , all yellow/oranges and all cherries. So with maybe 7 plants the grower will have a fantastic selection of tomato varieties. The project is in it's infancy, there are other pssibilities as well, as to three grafts/plant from different countries, etc. And of course I will supply seeds for the rootstock as well as all varieties to be used. Pricing/plant? Who knows right now, to be decided after I see how things progress. Carolyn __________________ Carolyn

March 25, 2015	#20
PaulF Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Brownville, Ne Posts: 3,285	Is grafting better for the south where apparently there are more disease problems? Grafting seems to be the latest thing but I don't know why. __________________ there's two things money can't buy; true love and home grown tomatoes.

March 25, 2015	#24
PA_Julia Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Princeton, Ky Zone 7A Posts: 2,208	I'm the next big thing.....Giant tomato wise that is. __________________ Personal Best- 4.46 LB Big Zac 2013

March 25, 2015	#21
Stvrob Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 1,413	I think its only a matter of time before they are able to genetically enginner a tomato to grow little bitty watermelons and cantalopes.

March 25, 2015	#23
Tim Cushing Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Tucson, Arizona Posts: 10	I would like to learn to breed my own varieties, as I would like to see if I can develop more heat and drought tolerant varieties for the Southwest. I see potential in the wild relatives of S. Lycopersicum. With that in mind, I have found that many of the so-called "cold-tolerant" varieties actually do very well here in Tucson!

March 25, 2015	#25
LindyAdele Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 323	Grafting is really intresting idea, one I want to play with someday.living in a city I have limited space...if 5 plants could yield 10 different, or 15 different tomatoes I woud be in heaven! It sounds like many peo0le are trying to solve some basic problems of drought and disease, but without sacrificing taste.

March 25, 2015	#26
rhines81 Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Zone 5A, Poconos Posts: 959	It'd be real nice if they would develop a tomato "tree" that you could tap like a Maple to get the sauce!

March 29, 2015	#28
Salsacharley Tomatovillian™ Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Mexico Posts: 2,052	As long as this is becoming wished for next big things, why not wish for a breeding or genetic procedure that transfers the desired characteristics of strong rootstocks to regular favorite tomato varieties.

March 31, 2015	#29
Garf Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Miami, FL. Posts: 442	I'm still looking for something that can survive a summer here in the swamps of Miami, Florida.