Mums for fall... - Page 2

BigVanVader · July 29, 2017

I got 8x5 mum pans. Should I charge $10 for them? I can take a pic in a bit. They are bigger than I expected.

imp · July 30, 2017

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Originally Posted by BigVanVader

I got 8x5 mum pans. Should I charge $10 for them? I can take a pic in a bit. They are bigger than I expected.

What is your average cost to set them up fully for sale?* Then you can figure what to charge.

* rhetorical question.

MissS · July 29, 2017

Yes and yes!

MissS · July 30, 2017

Of course. Yes and yes.

BigVanVader · July 30, 2017

Well I could profit from $5 per but I could really make some money if I go $10 per. I'm actually transplanting them all now. I'm supposed to fertilize at 300ppm but idk how to break that down to ounces or tbs. Help anyone?

Cole_Robbie · July 30, 2017

Whoever makes your fertilizer may have published a chart for mixing based on ppm.

If you get a meter, remember to account for the ppm of your tap water. Mine is about 250 ppm. So 300 ppm of fertilizer added would read 550 ppm.

Blue Lab makes nice meters. Hannah brand is decent. The cheap Chinese knock-offs are a waste of money.

BigVanVader · July 30, 2017

Do you use a meter Cole? I bought this http://www.amleo.com/jacks-professio...bag/p/J201020/
the chart on the bag just shows the measurements for fertigating.

Lol I just saw the measurements on that site.

imp · July 30, 2017

Next question is local price on comparable product, and how yours is better/worse?

Beings as you prob don't have comps., I would start it at the market at 10 holding there if yours are hitting early, and be willing to do a drop if needed after other Mums come out, IF there is a price point far below yours and yours are not selling.

Make the most of your strong points, pesticides, small grower pays more attention, etc..

PureHarvest · July 31, 2017

Cole, one-gallon is not big enough if you want a substantial plant that won't need water twice a day. Of course, some growers put one cutting in a 6" pot for "table top" mums. A royal pain to keep watered in a hot summer/fall.
Make sure you all check to see if you need 3 cuttings per pot, or if your variety is bred to branch and will need just one cutting.
We used 2 different suppliers from mums in the past. Probably sold around 500 per year at the garden center. Both grew in 2 gallon pots. This was key for us to keep them watered.
We paid $4 and change for a 2-gallon, and retailed for $7.99 or 3/22 if I remember the 3-for price correctly.
The lighter/pastel colors fade the worst after opening. The lighter they are to start, the quicker they wash out. Go with the strong/deep colors. I would avoid pom-pomp types.

Cole_Robbie · July 31, 2017

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Originally Posted by PureHarvest

Cole, one-gallon is not big enough if you want a substantial plant that won't need water twice a day. Of course, some growers put one cutting in a 6" pot for "table top" mums. A royal pain to keep watered in a hot summer/fall.

Two gallons seems huge. I have a few pots that size, and will certainly try a few at least. After growing sunflowers in trade size gallon pots in 95 degree weather, anything else should seem easy, at least I hope.

I'm seeing "mum pan" pots in 8.25" x 5" and 9" x 6.5" The volume of the 8" mum pan is only three quarts? Hummert has 288 of them for $90.

I can also get a 9 x 6 x 7 pot, 100 of them for $60. That may be a better option.

PureHarvest · August 1, 2017

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Originally Posted by Cole_Robbie

Two gallons seems huge. I have a few pots that size, and will certainly try a few at least. After growing sunflowers in trade size gallon pots in 95 degree weather, anything else should seem easy, at least I hope.

I'm seeing "mum pan" pots in 8.25" x 5" and 9" x 6.5" The volume of the 8" mum pan is only three quarts? Hummert has 288 of them for $90.

I can also get a 9 x 6 x 7 pot, 100 of them for $60. That may be a better option.

They will look huge at first, but when you see the finished product, it makes sense. The plant will be larger than a basketball. Probably about 50% larger than. Not that a mum pan won't work. Just looking at it from a perspective of having to hand water a few hundred pots every day. The mum pans were a chore to keep watered with a once a day schedule by hand in a retail environment.

greenthumbomaha · September 24, 2017

Just a thought. Have you considered the potting soil with moisture control? I am also partial to the three colors of mums in one large pot.

- Lisa

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Originally Posted by PureHarvest

Cole, one-gallon is not big enough if you want a substantial plant that won't need water twice a day. Of course, some growers put one cutting in a 6" pot for "table top" mums. A royal pain to keep watered in a hot summer/fall.
Make sure you all check to see if you need 3 cuttings per pot, or if your variety is bred to branch and will need just one cutting.
We used 2 different suppliers from mums in the past. Probably sold around 500 per year at the garden center. Both grew in 2 gallon pots. This was key for us to keep them watered.
We paid $4 and change for a 2-gallon, and retailed for $7.99 or 3/22 if I remember the 3-for price correctly.
The lighter/pastel colors fade the worst after opening. The lighter they are to start, the quicker they wash out. Go with the strong/deep colors. I would avoid pom-pomp types.

BigVanVader · July 31, 2017

Got all mine done yesterday. I think I'm gonna shoot for $7 each and 3 for 20. I decided to go with the fertilizer schedule Ball reccommeded as my plug guy also follows it. I was able to fill exactly 25 8×5 mum pans per 2.8 cu ft bag of mix. Got all the broccoli plugs done too and ended up with 325 in sheet-pots. Planning to go 3 rows spaced 10' in a 30 inch bed.

imp · July 31, 2017

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Originally Posted by BigVanVader

Got all mine done yesterday. I think I'm gonna shoot for $7 each and 3 for 20. I decided to go with the fertilizer schedule Ball reccommeded as my plug guy also follows it. I was able to fill exactly 25 8×5 mum pans per 2.8 cu ft bag of mix. Got all the broccoli plugs done too and ended up with 325 in sheet-pots. Planning to go 3 rows spaced 10' in a 30 inch bed.

You were busy!!!

What are "sheet-pots"?

My Foot Smells · July 31, 2017

Do markets charge tax? (7.99 vs. 8 even)

If they do, it is shameful. Can't remember from the last time I went.

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MissS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 3,146	Yes and yes! __________________ ~ Patti ~

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MissS Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin Posts: 3,146	Of course. Yes and yes. __________________ ~ Patti ~

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BigVanVader Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Greenville, South Carolina Posts: 3,099	Do you use a meter Cole? I bought this http://www.amleo.com/jacks-professio...bag/p/J201020/ the chart on the bag just shows the measurements for fertigating. Lol I just saw the measurements on that site. Last edited by BigVanVader; July 30, 2017 at 07:03 PM.

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Cole_Robbie Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Illinois, zone 6 Posts: 8,407	Whoever makes your fertilizer may have published a chart for mixing based on ppm. If you get a meter, remember to account for the ppm of your tap water. Mine is about 250 ppm. So 300 ppm of fertilizer added would read 550 ppm. Blue Lab makes nice meters. Hannah brand is decent. The cheap Chinese knock-offs are a waste of money.

July 30, 2017	#8
imp Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wichita Falls, Texas Posts: 4,832	Next question is local price on comparable product, and how yours is better/worse? Beings as you prob don't have comps., I would start it at the market at 10 holding there if yours are hitting early, and be willing to do a drop if needed after other Mums come out, IF there is a price point far below yours and yours are not selling. Make the most of your strong points, pesticides, small grower pays more attention, etc..

July 31, 2017	#9
PureHarvest Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Mid-Atlantic right on the line of Zone 7a and 7b Posts: 1,369	Cole, one-gallon is not big enough if you want a substantial plant that won't need water twice a day. Of course, some growers put one cutting in a 6" pot for "table top" mums. A royal pain to keep watered in a hot summer/fall. Make sure you all check to see if you need 3 cuttings per pot, or if your variety is bred to branch and will need just one cutting. We used 2 different suppliers from mums in the past. Probably sold around 500 per year at the garden center. Both grew in 2 gallon pots. This was key for us to keep them watered. We paid $4 and change for a 2-gallon, and retailed for $7.99 or 3/22 if I remember the 3-for price correctly. The lighter/pastel colors fade the worst after opening. The lighter they are to start, the quicker they wash out. Go with the strong/deep colors. I would avoid pom-pomp types.

July 31, 2017	#15
My Foot Smells Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Pulaski County, Arkansas Posts: 1,239	Do markets charge tax? (7.99 vs. 8 even) If they do, it is shameful. Can't remember from the last time I went.