Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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March 14, 2008 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
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Any help for a total beginner?
Hi everybody, I just planted some tomatoes a couple weeks ago and no sooner were they in the ground than they began a slow march torward death. I was hoping I could tell everybody what I did and maybe some of the experts could tell me what I did wrong
First let me say that I live in North Florida near the coast so the temperatures here are ranging about 45 - 75 right now. I built a 3 x 6 ' x 10" high raised bed, into which I poured about twenty bags of el-cheapo Hyponex soil. Then I planted ten "better boy" tomatoes; they were about 15 inches tall each and I buried half of each plant in the soil. They are being watered by a drip hose snaked around the base of the plants, and i usually water them for about 30 minutes every 2-3 days. They get full direct sun all day long (sunrise until sunset approx. 12 hours) Now the problem. The plants have seen no growth in about three weeks and they are gradually changing to an unsightly shade of GRAY. Specifically my questions: (1) i'm sure the soil is not appropriate - what should I have added? what should i add regularly? (2) sunlight....is 12 hours of full direct sun per day too much? (3) water...any tips on proper watering? (4) the stalks turning gray...what if anything does this indicate? THanks for any help and insight you can give. I read online that tomatoes would grow anywhere without much hassle, so I was kinda expecting to just plop them in the ground and watch them grow! |
March 14, 2008 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Alaska Zone 3/4
Posts: 1,857
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Were they hardened off before planting? Sounds like maybe some sunburn.
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March 15, 2008 | #3 |
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: PNW
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No lime? Tomatoes like a soil pH around 6.5, and they will
do ok betwen 6.0 and 7.0. Outside that range they suffer (phosphorus and some other fertilizer components form insoluble compounds with other elements outside that range). Ordinary, peaty potting soils are often 6.0 or less. I would sprinkle a cup or two of dolomite lime per plant around them and mix that into the soil before it gets full of roots. The smaller the particles the faster it will break down. Figure a minimum of 8 weeks before the soil gets to whatever pH it is going to level out at. No fertilizer? Cheap potting soils have very little nutritional content. There may be some in the soil underneath the raised bed, but it is a lot easier to root in the potting soil, so that is where most of the roots will be. You could do a per plant version of side-dressed rows. Get something like TomatoTone if you can find it (about the right N-P-K ratio for tomatoes, and it has lots of trace elements) or use whatever pelleted fertilizer you have on hand. You don't want a high-nitrogen fertilizer like lawn food. It accelerates plant growth too much and increases the risk of Blossom End Rot (BER; with a huge plant growing fast in hot weather, all of the calcium from the soil ends up in the leaves, and cell walls collapse in the fruit; some cultivars are more susceptible to it than others). Make a circular trench 1/2" to an inch deep around the plant, about 8" away from the stem. Fill it with fertilizer. If the soil is loose and you want to cultivate it in a little, that is fine. Throw another cup of it under each plant when you see first flowers (just scatter it; don't bother cultivating it in, because you will destroy roots, which increases the entry points for root disease). There are lots of other fine points, but this should get you started. There is a long-running Florida grower's thread that you might find interesting: http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=6590 (I, too, think "grayness" usually means sunburn. Plants were probably growing under a screen at the store, and the sudden 12 hours a day of direct sun toasted them. With any luck, they only lose the sunburned leaves, and the plants recover.) Good luck.
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March 15, 2008 | #4 |
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Welcome.
may be you can post a picture? People can give you more acurate advice that way. dcarch
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March 15, 2008 | #5 |
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Zone 5
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My first thought was hardening off, or not enough of it, too. Did you gradually expose the plants to the elements before putting them outside for good? I know here, if my plants are put in their garden home without being hardened off as such, they turn greyish-white from leaves to stem and die quickly. Although I can honestly say my sun-scorched plants have never made it three weeks...
If you're positive that wasn't the problem, please do post a pic. That always helps narrow down the possibilities a bit. |
March 15, 2008 | #6 |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: NE Kingdom, VT - Zone 3b
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Planting in North Florida on March 1? I've lived a few years in St. Augustine and Jacksonville, and my sister lives in Pensacola. Yes, maybe 3 out of 10 years that works, but not this year. March 15 is supposed to be the time to plant (today).
Get some new plants and start over is my suggestion. If your oldplants live, the growing tip was probably damaged to the point that they won't recover, and if they do, they won't produce in time before it's all over by July 4. Last edited by barkeater; March 15, 2008 at 09:57 PM. |
March 16, 2008 | #7 |
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rock Hill, SC
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If you have had evening temps below 40, then that would absolutely set back your tomato plants as barkeater mentioned.
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