Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 4, 2013 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: North Charleston,South Carolina, USA
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miracle grow pro fertilizer?
Every year i use this in early summer for my tomato plants, only once a year. My plants have had a lot or rain and now 3-5 days of sun 8-11hrs and heat is coming.I have 6 plants with flowers and they are only 10" high.I have only use fish food this summer.
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July 4, 2013 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Rock Hill, SC
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Is this a confession? Like eating McDonald's.
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July 4, 2013 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
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Yes i fell terrible about this. i need to go to church!!
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July 6, 2013 | #4 |
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I use manure compost and Jobes tomato spikes at planting then Miracle Grow Tomato Fertilizer later in the summer because its easy to put inline with my drip system. That's what I do for what it is worth. Feels good to finally confess.
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July 9, 2013 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
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I don't use anything with the Miracle-Gro brand name on it. My experiences have been universally negative. If you want to grow tomato plants for foliage alone, though, it is indeed miraculous.
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July 9, 2013 | #6 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Filmnet, I say use what works best for you.. |
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July 9, 2013 | #7 |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: Southeast GA, USDA 9a, HZ9, Sunset Z28
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Wow. Miracle Gro hooked up directly to a slow drip. Now I'm getting excited :-) Easy on the MG criticism. The All Purpose liquid is just a 3-1-2 ratio, and very good for containers. I use all types of fertilizers.
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July 10, 2013 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
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This is MC Pro very strong used and sold to stores only a few yrs ago. A friend had this it is used in stores to get flowers and plants looking nice, then at home they went down or died. I was learning about how they get the plants looking so nice.
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July 10, 2013 | #9 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Eastern Shore of Maryland
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Mater Magic!!! that stuff is awesome but at $5/small jug, it gets pricey if you have a bunch of plants. That and OCCASSIONAL application of something we got from a guy who works at one of the university agricultural depts. (he said something along the lines of 40-40-40 but I can't remember the specifics). He simply told us to use it very sparingly as it was industrial strength.
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July 10, 2013 | #10 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Yes i remember the package it had numbers like around 35, 40s. blew me away when i read it. The friend who had it got it from his mother, she had it from 1980s. He but it on plants in pots and the plant were crazy. |
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July 10, 2013 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
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MG is a byproduct of the petroleum refining process. Yum!
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July 10, 2013 | #12 |
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Just found it on Goggle MG Nursery Select
I swear mine was stronger though! 24-8-16 |
July 10, 2013 | #13 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Oklahoma
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24-8-16 is horrible for tomatoes. You'll be better off with 8-24-16 especially at fruit set time.
Higher nitrogen is ok in early spring when tomatoes are in their growth phase (with-in reason), but not good at all when they start blooming. Tomatoguy had it exactly right "If you want to grow tomato plants for foliage alone, though, it is indeed miraculous." Personally I prefer slow release organic ferts so I don't have to add anything. And if I do think they need a boost, I have some low nitrogen fish emulsion 2-5-3 Read this link back in 1934 about Rutgers. New Jersey State Horticultural Society News Notice page 2 "... growers should not apply as much nitrogen early in the season ... If fertilized in the same manner as Pritchard, the vines may be too rank and the fruit will be late in setting and developing" so this has been known a very long time. Now this was talking about the differences between cultivars. However, ANY tomato regardless of type can be over fertilized with nitrogen and end up with the same effect........It is just that heavy foliage cultivars, the effect is more critical and a HUGE number of cultivars have Rutgers in their parentage. Just something to think about. Not only that but it also subjects the plants to increased disease and insect damage. Probably the biggest mistake new growers make IMHO.
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July 10, 2013 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
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Thanks guys, I am organic Neptune's Harvest and my kitchen compost, Espoma also. But i put 6 plants in late because someone was eating my plants, i put 16 plants in May24. By June 20 I had only 11, the 6 plants i bought were Cherokee Purple plants. And they were in small 6 plants,so June 30 i put the Mg on them. There plants are in ground June 1, to Aug 30.
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July 11, 2013 | #15 |
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I think it was discussed here a few years back, Feldon. You were probably a member by then and remember it. I didn't know MG was a byproduct of petroleum processing, but it was stated here that it is a salt. I believe I have that correct.
Logic and conventional wisdom says this stuff should not work and if it did, it should be bad for you. Yet this is probably the most popular selling form of backyard gardeners and flower growers. It grows plants like crazy and I've never heard of an ill-effect from it when used correctly. I do love TomatoTone, though. And Alaskan fish oil.
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