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Old November 13, 2015   #1
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Default YOUR Tentativ Grow out ... for 2016 season

For most of us our next season is 4-5 months away. But some Texans , eg, are getting ready to germinate seeds. Like Worth mentioned somewhere that he will start germinating around Thanksgiving. That is just around the corner.

I, myself, have a tentative grow out list shown below:

1-AZOYCHKA
2-BETTER BOY (F1)
3-BIG BEEF (F1)
4- BLACK FROM TULA
5- BLACK SEAMAN
6- GREEN COPIA
7- BROWN HEART
8- HAHMS GELBE T.
9-INDIAN STRIPE
7- INDIGO APPLE
10- KUMATO (F3)
11- NEW BIG DWARF
12-OLD GERMAN
13- PURPLE HEART, dwrf
14-REISENTRAUBE
15- SAKHARNYI ZHELTYI
16- SILETZ
17- WILLAMETTE
NUMBER OF TOTAL PLANTS : ~= 26. This should leave me some room to have fun in the sun.


I like to see which varieties are being popular . I believe in peer polling. Of course, I always do screen and pick what I like. Everything in my list, above, has been selected on the same basis.


OK. Are you ready to get published ?


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PS: If I grow a total of 26 plants and dedicate 3 sq-ft per plant in the raised beds, that will take up 78 sq-ft. That is almost 50% of my raised beds area. The other 50% is for all other garden veggies.

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I've received lots of interesting new to all or most ones from Romania and the Czech Republic and expecting new ones from France and Spain as well and others also expected.

But no, no list of ones to be grown out in 2016 yet.

On your list above I see Indian Stripes (plural) and the only place I know of, offhand, that spelled it that way was a typo from Sandhill Preservation.

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I've received lots of interesting new to all or most ones from Romania and the Czech Republic and expecting new ones from France and Spain as well and others also expected.

But no, no list of ones to be grown out in 2016 yet.

On your list above I see Indian Stripes (plural) and the only place I know of, offhand, that spelled it that way was a typo from Sandhill Preservation.

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Carolyn- are you going to grow out the "Not Omar's Lebanese" heart that I sent you? I'm going to give a few a try too!
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Carolyn- are you going to grow out the "Not Omar's Lebanese" heart that I sent you? I'm going to give a few a try too!
Absolutely it's going to be grown out.

In some thread here somewhere I said that I thought I had too many varieties for my current seed producers to work with that I'd need some extra volunteers for the following:

First, your possible Omar's heart, what's not to like about Omar and I LOVE Omar's Lebanese and glad to see that you will also be doing some grow outs of it as well.

Second, seeds from both JLJ and Marsha to see if we can't get a real"hearty" looking Indian Stripe that is stable.

And I'll put up a request for that in the Off Topic Forum later, don't know when, just too much on my plate right now trying to get stuff together for my next seed offer in Jan and more, and need to talk to Shawn, who is taking over the hard part of that b'c right now seeds produced this past summer are still in the hands of those who produced them, with one exception, until Shawn and I decide if those seeds should be sent to him or to me first.

So please,if anyone is interested in the above do not contact men ow and when I ask for some volunteers Ill explain in more detail what I expect from seed producers.

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. . . Second, seeds from both JLJ and Marsha to see if we can't get a real"hearty" looking Indian Stripe that is stable. . .
Hopefully from MarinaRussian also, Carolyn, as those may be the 'heartiest' of the current population -- at least it would be good to compare them, as Marsha's seeds are first generation children of mine and it would be useful to include some that are at least a little bit less closely related, especially when they look so promising.

If you do have some of MarinaRussian's seeds, and have more than you need to set up your usual seed production, I'd like to put a few of hers next to the products of my seeds and Marsha's . . . but I only want them if you have enough that it wouldn't endanger your seed production needs.

If I happened to get anything interesting I'd share them with you, of course, but with the vole damage to tomatoes (and about everything else) this year, I'm feeling gloomily that I should quit gardening and just set up as a vacation location for miniature dachshunds to come and enjoy a gourmet selection of pesky rodents.

I do intend to persist with tomatoes, really . . . but I don't want anyone counting on me to produce any . . . those voles did unprecedented damage in spite of measures that have slowed them down in the past. I might have a new idea or two, but probably so do the vile voles . . . we shall see.
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Hopefully from MarinaRussian also, Carolyn, as those may be the 'heartiest' of the current population -- at least it would be good to compare them, as Marsha's seeds are first generation children of mine and it would be useful to include some that are at least a little bit less closely related, especially when they look so promising.

If you do have some of MarinaRussian's seeds, and have more than you need to set up your usual seed production, I'd like to put a few of hers next to the products of my seeds and Marsha's . . . but I only want them if you have enough that it wouldn't endanger your seed production needs.

If I happened to get anything interesting I'd share them with you, of course, but with the vole damage to tomatoes (and about everything else) this year, I'm feeling gloomily that I should quit gardening and just set up as a vacation location for miniature dachshunds to come and enjoy a gourmet selection of pesky rodents.

I do intend to persist with tomatoes, really . . . but I don't want anyone counting on me to produce any . . . those voles did unprecedented damage in spite of measures that have slowed them down in the past. I might have a new idea or two, but probably so do the vile voles . . . we shall see.
No, I don't currently have any ISH seeds from Marina, but the way we left it I was to contact her about seeds in general for growout next summer, so I'll try to estimate how many seeds I might need for two new volunteers fpr ISH as well as for you.

VILE VOLES indeed. Solution for me was a flat blade very sharp shovel.

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I'm going to say that I'm ready in hopes that I won't accumulate any more new varieties before spring sowing time.

In 2016, I plan to grow out all the paste types I have if I can fit them. In addition, I'm growing the best of the tomatoes I've tried so far. One small order "happened"...so there are a couple new ones that aren't pastes.

Abbattista
Andes
Andine Cornue
Barlow Jap
Big Ray's Argentina
Blackberry
Black Star
Carol Chyko's Big Black Paste
Casino
Chico Grande
Cornuto Delle Ande
Cow's Tit
Cuore del Drago
Cuore Di Bue Albenga
Daniel Burson
Dinofrios German
Elgin Pink
Faelan's First Snow
Fish Lake Oxheart
Franchi Red Pear
George O'Brien
Gildo Pietroboni
Goldman's Italian American
Howard German
Idaho Hillbilly
Indian Zebra
Kenosha Paste
Liguria
Martino's Roma
Negrillo de Almoguera
Not Purple Strawberry
Owen's Purple
Pearly Pink Orange
Petrovich
Polish Linguisa
Rebel Yell
Red Pear (Giant) Gransasso Strain
Romeo
Ropreco
Rosalie's Paste
Rozella
Santa Maria
Sarnowski Polish Plum
Shannon's
Sherrill
Sungold F1
Terhune
Vidoje's Surprise
Work Release Paste
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Great looking list Kath and I should have some of the ones that you list that Roberta in Italy sent me that you did seed production for me and also sent me fruits so I could compare them with her descriptions in my upcoming seed offer.

But you didn't list Opalka, which is one of my most successful tomato kids. But you did list Sarnowski Polish Plum, and another of my tomato kids and I do wish more folks would grow that one, especially when they see the doubles and even tripled fruits that it can give.

Just an anecdote, but Barkeater who used to post here a lot is with Homeland Security on the Canadian border and who comes through but Mike Sarnowski, Ed recognizes the name and says are you related to that tomato variety and Mike says yes I am.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki...b=General_Info

A nice family heirloom from the 1890's/


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Great looking list Kath and I should have some of the ones that you list that Roberta in Italy sent me that you did seed production for me and also sent me fruits so I could compare them with her descriptions in my upcoming seed offer.

But you didn't list Opalka, which is one of my most successful tomato kids. But you did list Sarnowski Polish Plum, and another of my tomato kids and I do wish more folks would grow that one, especially when they see the doubles and even tripled fruits that it can give.

Just an anecdote, but Barkeater who used to post here a lot is with Homeland Security on the Canadian border and who comes through but Mike Sarnowski, Ed recognizes the name and says are you related to that tomato variety and Mike says yes I am.

http://t.tatianastomatobase.com/wiki...b=General_Info

A nice family heirloom from the 1890's/


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Hmmm...not sure why it's not on my list, Carolyn, but maybe it should be!
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It is the start of growing season in Miami, Fl. Since I am winding down, I will only plant a few this year. I started with 14 Everglades seeds and got 11 starts over a month. I have 3 in large pots and 2 in 11 gallon tubs. I will soon start Bloody Butcher. I have 3 XL pots for the BB. I also have a new bale of ProMix.
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I counted my peppers last night....65 varieties, none of them bells.

The tomato list will get a lot longer when the seed swap seeds come back.
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Well my list isn't set in stone, but nearly so. It is nice that it is mid November and hasn't felt much like winter yet. My list is smaller than most on here, but it is a good size list for us, for the room we have, and the other crops I like to grow.

2016 is the year of the cherry tomato in our garden. * denotes new to our garden.


Wisconsin 55
Stupice
Green Giant*
Rosella Purple (dwarf)*
Jeremy's Stripes (dwarf)
Black Krim
Sungold
Sunsugar*
Carbon Copy
Experiment Yellow PL Cherry
Mexico Midget*
Sunrise Bumblebee*
Frosted Green Doctors*
Teensy F2 (dwarf project)*
Blush*
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About 100 or so plants from different project dwarfs. And another 60 big plants. And at least one new cross. Still have to put names to the garden locations, but I have a while to get that done.

A hint or clue to my list is "I love good tasting beefsteaks". Henderson's Pink Ponderosa will be on the list for sure.
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Off the top of my head....

Numerous Indian Stripe - Flavor that blew my mind!

Numerous Big Beef - because it's awesome

Numerous Shannon's - Made sauce with just Shannon's only and it made a big difference.

A few KBX - had crop failure this year...it won't happen again!! lol

The REAL Mexico Midget if I can find it

Then of course 15 - 20 that I can't live with after reading everyone else's list!


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Thanks Carolyn. I corrected the spelling to singular : INDIAN STRIPE.

Wow ! Lots of impressive lists I see up there that mine cannot hold a candle for them.
I cut by by 50% in varieties, compared to 2015. I have about 50/50 repeats and new tries.
So far I have seen 2 matches ( Indian Stripe and Big Beef). But this is only the beginning.

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