Is this Demidov?

**mdvpc** · February 25, 2006

I was sent seed for Demidov, and Andrey has it listed as pl-this doesnt look pl to me, it looks rugose. Anyone grown this and can comment?

Tania · February 26, 2006

Michael,

I grew Demidov (seeds from Andrey) last year, and I got exactly what you have on the picture - short dwarf plant with rigose foliage. I know Andrey lists it as PL, so something is not quite right - either it is RL or the seeds are crossed.

Where did you get your seeds?

I was going to retry this year and grow both my saved seeds and some of the original, but somehow forgotten to start seeds, and already have more than enough to fill in the garden... :-) Will retry next year then.

Keep us posted on your Demidov - I love your pictures!

**mdvpc** · February 26, 2006

Tania-I cant remember exactly who sent me seed, but she said she got hers from Andrey, grew it out and sent me seed. Its a nice little plant, so we shall see. I plan on saving seed.

patty_b · February 27, 2006

Michael....you so kindly sent me some Brown Berry when I ask. In addition, Citron Compact. I sent the Demidov which orginally came from Tania. Mine were not PL either. A very interesting plant at only 18" tall
with rather large tomatoes for it's size. Patty

Tania · February 27, 2006

That definitely explains why the your plant and my plant look the same!

**mdvpc** · February 27, 2006

Patty-Sorry that I forgot that you sent seed to me-you were so kind to do so. Andrey has emailed me and said the following: "Demidov has to be PL, I'm sure. Please, send me more pictures with
good view, please."

So the question really is what do we have if Andrey is right?

Tania · February 27, 2006

If Demidov is Pl then what we got is some different variety maked as 'Demidov' - since both Patty and myself grew it from the same seed pack I received from Andrey in 2004, and we both got the same RL rigose plants.

Since yours is F2 and it looks exactly like what I had in F1, then it is unlikely to be a cross...

Seeds mix up?

Here is a description I found for Demidov:
"excellent quality salad type fruits. For open ground. Mid-season. 105-110 days from germination to mature fruit. Dwarf plant. Fruits are round and slightly flattened, firm, pink-red with some green shoulders. 100-110g (~4 oz). For fresh use."

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:...a&ct=clnk&cd=1

Unfortunately no info about leaf type...

**mdvpc** · February 28, 2006

The mystery is solved-Patty and I got an email from Andrey where he said: "You know we used to classified tomato leaves only by 2 types: RL and
PL and usually connect rugose type to potato leaves. So everything is
fine I think."

Tania · February 28, 2006

awesome - thank you Michael for confirming that this is the real Demidov!

This is great news!

Andrey_BY · February 28, 2006

Yes, it's true. And 2,5 years ago when I just started to visit GW and other foreign web-sources and made my first international seed trades I just didn't care about leaves shape, because it's not our tradition. We just grow, can and eat tomatoes, fight with deseases etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdvpc

The mystery is solved-Patty and I got an email from Andrey where he said: "You know we used to classified tomato leaves only by 2 types: RL and
PL and usually connect rugose type to potato leaves. So everything is
fine I think."

Deer Park · May 8, 2006

Love this plant. A real winner!

Just harvested 10 large pink fruits from this compact plant. Very early for such large fruits.

Planted out March frist in a 20 gallon container. First fruit harvested was 10 oz in 55days with the other nine this past weekend. Hope it flowers and puts out another batch don't know what to expect. Can anyone tell me?

Largest fruit was 14 oz and smallest was 8 oz, most 10 oz.

Taste was very good. Going to see how long they keep and then taste test again when very ripe.

Michael

**mdvpc** · November 16, 2008

I am growing Demidov again in my greenhouse. No fruit set yet, but I do have flowers. Photo of my plant today, 11/16/08 and its 17 inches tall. 2 plants in a 5 gallon container.

**mdvpc** · November 18, 2008

Demidov has now set one fruit, with hopefully, many more to come. Fruit set was 11/17/08.

**mdvpc** · December 6, 2008

Here is Demidov today, December 6 with lots of fruit.

February 25, 2006	#1
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Is this Demidov? I was sent seed for Demidov, and Andrey has it listed as pl-this doesnt look pl to me, it looks rugose. Anyone grown this and can comment? __________________ Michael

February 26, 2006	#2
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	Michael, I grew Demidov (seeds from Andrey) last year, and I got exactly what you have on the picture - short dwarf plant with rigose foliage. I know Andrey lists it as PL, so something is not quite right - either it is RL or the seeds are crossed. Where did you get your seeds? I was going to retry this year and grow both my saved seeds and some of the original, but somehow forgotten to start seeds, and already have more than enough to fill in the garden... :-) Will retry next year then. Keep us posted on your Demidov - I love your pictures! __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase

February 26, 2006	#3
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Tania-I cant remember exactly who sent me seed, but she said she got hers from Andrey, grew it out and sent me seed. Its a nice little plant, so we shall see. I plan on saving seed. __________________ Michael

February 27, 2006	#5
Tania Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Anmore, BC, Canada Posts: 3,970	That definitely explains why the your plant and my plant look the same! __________________ Tatiana's TOMATObase

February 27, 2006	#6
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Patty-Sorry that I forgot that you sent seed to me-you were so kind to do so. Andrey has emailed me and said the following: "Demidov has to be PL, I'm sure. Please, send me more pictures with good view, please." So the question really is what do we have if Andrey is right? __________________ Michael

February 27, 2006	#4
patty_b Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 487	Michael....you so kindly sent me some Brown Berry when I ask. In addition, Citron Compact. I sent the Demidov which orginally came from Tania. Mine were not PL either. A very interesting plant at only 18" tall with rather large tomatoes for it's size. Patty

February 28, 2006	#8
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	The mystery is solved-Patty and I got an email from Andrey where he said: "You know we used to classified tomato leaves only by 2 types: RL and PL and usually connect rugose type to potato leaves. So everything is fine I think." __________________ Michael

May 8, 2006	#11
Deer Park Tomatovillian™ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Pasadena, Texas Posts: 199	Love this plant. A real winner! Just harvested 10 large pink fruits from this compact plant. Very early for such large fruits. Planted out March frist in a 20 gallon container. First fruit harvested was 10 oz in 55days with the other nine this past weekend. Hope it flowers and puts out another batch don't know what to expect. Can anyone tell me? Largest fruit was 14 oz and smallest was 8 oz, most 10 oz. Taste was very good. Going to see how long they keep and then taste test again when very ripe. Michael

November 18, 2008	#13
mdvpc Tomatoville® Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 4,386	Demidov has now set one fruit, with hopefully, many more to come. Fruit set was 11/17/08. __________________ Michael