Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Many of us feel quite helpless watching Ukraine being torn apart. We know we have many forum friends who live in the greater region as well, and of course we are concerned for them!
This UKRAINE TRIBUTE GROW OUT is a small way to show solidarity for the strong people of Ukraine. Is there any interest? Easy to participate. -Choose something or several things from the list below, or that you know are from Ukraine. -Post on this post below what you are growing so we don't have many duplicates. -Save seeds from your varieties. Make pkgs of 5 seeds or more when they are dry. Label with your name, Variety and Date -Send seeds to me by NOV 1,2022. I will collate and redistribute both to participants as well as anyone who wants to grow them! We will raise awareness collectively as we talk about why we grow these varieties. We will perpetuate wonderful varieties that Ukrainians have developed and grow there. We will be doing something small, individually, in support of Ukraine...but from small things come great things. The list follows seperately in the next post. I will update as needed as more varieties are identified. Thanks everyone and especially to @greenthumbomaha and @OhioGardener who have spurred this idea! Heide |
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Tomatovillian™
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The list is mostly from Tatianna's Tomatobase so some varieties are from Ukrainian sources and not specifically Ukraine. I have tried to keep the names in their original language with our translations following.
I am hoping those international members may tell me what to delete from the list, or Ukrainian varieties that should be added TOMATOES FROM UKRAINE 646 Aisberg Altaiskiy Oranzhevyi Amerikanskiy Sladkiy Amurskiy Tigr Anzhela Gigant Ukrainskaya Appetitnyy Arizona Arkadia Auria Avstraliyskiy Gigant - Pobeditel Babushka Byka Babushkina Radost Babushkino Babushkino Bychie Serdtse Banzai Barhatniy Pizhon Belosnezhka -AGATHA Belyi Naliv Berli Delikates Big Salad, Ukrainian Black Ethiopian Black from Tula Black Krim Blgarska Khala Bolgarskoe Chudo Bordovyi Brazilskiy Velikan Brendy Zolotoy Bull Heart, Red Ukrainian Bychie Serdtse Minusinskoe Kistevoe Bychiy Myod Bychye Serdtse (Khilenko) Bychye Serdtse Abakanskoe Bychye Serdtse Beloe Bychye Serdtse Minusinskoe Rozovoe Bychye Serdtse Minusinskoe Zheltoe Bychye Serdtse Oranzhevoe Bychye Serdtse Vystavochnoe Capella Cheburan (Gurin) Chernoe Serdtse (a.k.a. Black Heart) Chernyi Krim Chris Ukrainian Chudo Rinka Chyornyi Tarasenko Crimson Potato Dacia De Barao Tsarskiy Debbie’s Ukrainian Plum Denis Dunai Druzhba – Friendship Emerald Pear Evgenia Faberge Fiesta Fioletovyy Gerkules ~ Hercules, a dwarf Gigant Dukhova Gigant-10 Novikova Gogosha Gospodar Gothic Granula Gritsyk Heavenly Delight Huan U Hurma Irlandskiy Likyor Iskorka - Sparkle Kalvados Kamennyi Tsvetok Kemerovets Khirhiv Kibits Kiev Kievskie Zori Kievlyanka King Kong Kitayskiy Oksamitoviy Klondaik Knyaginya Kobzar Kolkhoznaya Koroleva Kolonnada Kolovyi Komnatniy, Ocharovanie - Indoor Charm Korol Rannikh Korshun Ogromnyi Kovboi Krasnaya Mishen' Kremenchugskiy - Kremenchug Kiyv Ukrainian Kyiv - Grad Kyiv 139 Lagidnyi Len-1 Lida Ukrainian Lyana Early Original Lyana Rozovyy Lyubymyy Lyuda's Mom's Large Pink Ukrainian Lyuda's Mom's Large Red Ukrainian Magnat Malinovaya Rossyp Malinovka Malinovka - Crimson Malynove Vikante Mamont Marinkin Yazychok Maryushka (LOW) Medovyi Spas Minusinskiy Zheltyi Moldavskie Sladkie Monastyrskaya Trapeza Monastyrskaya Trapeza Krasnaya Nadia Tarasenko Naliv Nikolai Dukhov Noire De Crimee Novinka Pridnestroviya Odessa Market Odesskiy Kucheryavets Odesskiy Rozovyi Olimp Malinovyi Oligarkh - Oligarch Painted Ukrainian Pepper Dukhova Petrovich Pink Pink Plum Pobeditel Pridneprovskiy Rozoviy Prima Purple Russian (aka Ukrainian Purple) Rayskoye Naslazhdeniye - Paradisiac Delight Renet Regina Romantika Rozovyi Gigant Ukrainskiy Rozovyi Kilogrammovyi Rozy Tekhasa Russian Heart Russkiy Razmer Rozovyi Sadovaya Zhemchuzhina Rozovaya Sanka Original Sakharnyi Bizon Sakharnyi Bizon Red Sakharnyy Pudovichok Shakhtersky Sharpei Pink Shedra Sliva Tarasenka Sibirskiy Skorospelyi Sinyaya Grusha Dukhova ( Blue Pear) Slavic Masterpiece Slivka Gigant Oranzhevaya Spy Dean’s orange striped Stambul - Istanbul Sun Sardegna Sonyachna Komora Solerosso Snow Fairy Solovey Razboynik Sosulechka Sosulka Belaya(white Icicle) Sosulka Chernaya (Black Icicle) Sosulka Oranzhevaya (Orange Icicle) Sosulka Rozovaya (Icicle Pink) Sosulka Zheltaya (Yellow Icicle) Soviet Stella Tarasenko 6 Tarasenko Legend Tarasenko Oranzheviy Tarasenko Yubileyniy (Tarasenko Anniversary) Tatar of Mongolistan Tryufel Chornyy-Black Truffle Trifele Tryufel Zhovtyy - Yellow Truffle Trifele Tsitrusovyy Sad-Citrus Tsesarevich Ukrainian Heart Ukrainian Hot Ukrainian Pear Ukrainian Pickling Ukrainian Vining Ukrainische Eier Ukrainka Ukrainskaya Olena- Olena Ukrainian Vasylyna Vechnyy Zov Velmozha-Magnate Vernisazh Chernyi -Black Vernissage Vernisazh Rozovyi-Pink Vernissage Vernisazh Zelenyi Vernisazh Zheltyi- Yellow Vernissage Vezunchik Vidimo-Nevidimo Vinnaya Bukhta Viziry Volove Serdtse Volovie Ukho (Pepper) Weisnicht's Potato Leaf Weisnicht's Ukrainian Yablochnyi Lipetskiy Yana Yantarniy Med-Amber Colored Yaryk Yefemer – Ephemera Yellow Clusters Yuvel Rozovyi Zagadka Doliny Roz Zamok Shartr Zasolochnyi Zinulya Zolotoy Potok "Golden Stream" Zolotye Kupola - Golden Domes OTHER VEGGIES CARROTS Krasavka (high carotene) CUCUMBER Dekan LETTUCE Odessa Curly MELONS Borisfen Cershownski Collective Farm Woman Cream of Saskatchewan (Watermelon) PEAS Amplissimo Viktoria Ukrainskaya PEPPERS Chinese Wall Gold Scythian - sweet Lesya Squash (summer): Odessa Squash (vining pumpkin): Kavbuz Ukrainskyy Siryy Lel Khersonskiy |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Germany
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I will grow:
Belyi Naliv Heart of Ashgabat King Kong Medovyi Spas Purple Russian Sibirskiy Skorospelyi Tatar of Mongolistan My seeds are very old, I hope that they germinate. |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central MN, USDA Zone 3
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I have been praying over a single seed that germinated of "Romance", which was last grown (by me) in 2005. My notes suggest it was, at that time, a popular Ukrainian determinate variety, possibly useful in tight spaces or even containers.
It may be the "Romantica" variety in the list. I participated in the MMMM swap and recieved "Legenda Tarasenko", which might translate to Tarasenko Legend, as well as "Ocharovnyi Komnatyi" which Google translated to "early dwarf"...it may be "Komnatniy, Ocharovanie - Indoor Charm". Legenda was already on the grow/save seed list, now O. Komnatyi will get a space, too. Pray for that lone surviving Romance seedling. ![]() It don't look too good. Sent from my motorola edge using Tapatalk
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Coastal CT, zone 7a
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I have a packet of "Black Vernissage" which is a variety new to me. I obtained the seed in 2021 from the Experimental Farm Network, and it's described as being from Ukraine. I will be growing this out this season.
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hampton, Virginia
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I have and will plant more of the Following for World Peace, Amen!!
1. Ukrainian Pear 2. Black from Tula 3. Black Krim
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
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Great idea!
I am grow Orange Icicle, along with a few friends, this year. Thanks for the seeds, Heide! Quote:
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Metro Denver
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I am so happy people want to be involved! How wonderful!
If anyone needs to request Ukrainian seeds, please do that here as well. Andrey has been in touch and he is going to edit the list as well so this is good news! And yes @eyeolf I will add your Romantica germination to my long prayer list! ![]() |
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: California Central Valley
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I grew one Kolkhoznitsa (Collective Farm Woman) melon plant last year from a purchased seedling (local plant sale), and saved some seeds (unbagged). I don't have time this month to field requests (too many deadlines all at once!), but if anyone would like a bulk pack to distribute seeds to anyone who wants to grow it this year, I can send one bubbler next week. As far as I could tell, no one near me in the community garden was growing melons, but the recommended isolation distance is 800 ft. to half a mile!
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Germany
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I had a lot of Ukrainian kinds. I sent them to France because I don't have the space, the time and the power to grow them. We'll wait till the end of the 2022th year. Than I can ask for kinds. I do get them.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Vermont
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I should know this, I think, but was Tarasenko Ukrainian? I assume so, since a few varieties on the list bear his name. Every year I grow Legenda Tarasenko, Tarasenko 2, and Tarasenko 6.
Tomorrow I will go through the list and note which other varieties on it I grow, and will contribute to this project. Anybody know if Shokoladnia Sosulka is Ukrainian? Shawn
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Minsk, Belarus, Eastern Europe (Zone 4a)
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All Tarasenko varieties are Ukrainian indeed as long as Feodosiy Tarasenko lived in Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in USSR (in Sumy region of Ukraine). I really like all of his high-yelding and multiflora tomato varieties.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Indianapolis
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What a vast and varied list of seeds......of which I have none. I would love to grow one variety and will check out sites for purchase.
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Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Hi Dot- I know JLgardens has some as well as Tomatofest. I have started checking around.
ALSO- If anyone has extra Ukraine seeds they are not growing, could you please PM Dot? Let's spread some seeds around and spread the goodness. |
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My last post triggered a memory-
I did a seed offer here of Nikitovka seeds from an order I placed in 2018. Nikitovka is based in Ukraine. I actually messaged them last night and so far they are safe as are their employees. Seeds should still be viable and I will go to locate them. Here were the varieties. Some are clearly marked from Ukraine. Others, such as the de Baraos may be Russian. Perhaps Andrey will comment. Anyone who wants to grow for the tribute can choose 1, just PM me. Nikitovka Seeds 2018 Ukraine Descriptions from Nikitovka website, those italicized that follow are from Tatiana’s Tomatobase Appetitnyy- Mid-season Ukrainian heirloom for open ground and greenhouse. Determinate (bush) tomato, plant grows 80-90cm (30-35in.) height. Large, unusual intense pink, flat-rounded, dense, sweet, delicious tomatoes, weight 350-450g (12-16oz.). RL, Name means appetizing or delicious in Russian,beefsteak/slicer Tatiana’s site says this is Indeterminate. Russian commercial Tomato Dar Zavolzhzhya- Excellent taste. Mid-season variety. Plant height 50 - 70 cm. Fruit rounded, orange-red color, weight 80 - 140 g. Quality has excellent taste, resistant to diseases, transportable. Recommended for cultivation in the open ground. Used in salads and for processing.The name means 'Gift from Zavolzhie', where 'Zavolzhie' is a geographic region of Russia near Volga River. 75 days, semi-det., regular leaf, 3-6 oz red fruit, great tasting all-purpose tomato, high yields, fusarium resistance. de Barao Chornyy= Late-season variety. RL The plant growth more than 2m height, resistant to late blight. Fruit egg-shaped, purplish-brown, smooth, weight 60-90g. The variety is valued for its high yield, suitability for canning, very good taste.good keeper. De Barao Oranzhevyy= Ind, mid[late RL Fruits are thick, delicious, smooth, shiny, bright orange, oval-ovate in shape, weighing 60-90g. The variety has high resistance to late blight. Valued for its high yield, good taste of fresh and canned fruits, portability and resistance to disease. de Barao Tigrovyy= Mid-season Russian heirloom variety. Dense, delicious, orange tomatoes with yellow and green stripes, weight 60-70g (2-2.5 oz.). Resistant to late blight. Excellent for canning. de Barao Tsarskiy- Indeterminate tomato variety, plant grows up to 300 cm (118 in.) tall. Plum shaped, pale pink fruits, weight up to 100g (3.5 oz.) with a very delicious taste. Good resistance to late blight. Recommended for canning. Indet. plants with regular leaf foliage. Small oval-shaped pink fruits with cute little tip at blossom end. 2-4 oz. Juicy, delicious sweet flavor. Very good for pickling or eating fresh. Druzhba- Mid-season variety. Plants height 50 - 70 cm (1.5 - 2.5 ft). Round, slightly ribbed, yellow fruits, weight 60-70 g (2 – 2.5oz) with a great taste. Resistant against late blight. Recommended for growing in open ground. Use for salads and processing. the word druzhba means “friendship” in Bulgarian Large vines, need caging or staking. First maturity about 80 days. Fruits are typically about 6 oz. smooth red globes, a nicely balanced flavor. Druzba is a good producer throughout later summer and well into the fall. The fruits exhibit a little longitudinal cracking in wet weather. Fioletovyy= A unique Ukrainian Mid-Season (110-120 days), high-yielding Heirloom. Indeterminate tomato, plant grows 100-120cm (40-50in.) height. Purple, sweet tomatoes, weight 150-180g (5-6oz.) with an intense taste. Good virus resistance. Florentiyskiy Rebristyy- Mid-season variety (120-130 days). Bush tall, 150-200cm. The fruits are large, bright-red, flat-rounded with strong ribbing, average weight 150-180g. The flesh is red, fleshy and juicy, with a small amount of seeds. Grow in open field and in greenhouses. Kibits- Ultra-early (68-75 days) Ukrainian heirloom for open ground. Determinate (bush) tomato, plant grows up to 100 cm (40 in.) height. Very delicious, meaty, dark red, sweet tomatoes, weight 60-80g (2-3 oz.). Resistant to late blight. Use fresh and for canning. Mid season red indet RL elongated plum/ great for container/heavy yield Kobzar Tarasenko= Mid-season variety (110-120 days). Determinate, bush tomato grows up to 50-70 cm (20-28 in.) height. Oval-shaped, red fruits, weight 50-80g (1.7-2.8 oz.) with an excellent taste. Variety is resistant to late blight. Korichnevyy Rebristyy- Mid-season (90-100days) variety. Indeterminate tomato, bush grows more than 150 cm (60 in.) tall. Large, black-brown fruits weight 120-150g (4-5oz.) with an excellent, sweet taste. Use fresh. Mikado Krasnyy- Mid-season (130-140 days) heirloom variety. Indeterminate tomato, plant grows 150-250 cm (60-100 in.) height. Large, meaty, dense, red beefsteak tomatoes, weight 300-600g (10-20 oz.). Use fresh. Mid season Red, Potato Leaf, medium beefsteak Mikado Rozovyy- Mid-season variety (130-140 days). Bush tall, 150-250cm. The fruits are large, fleshy, thick, pink color, weight 300-600g with an excellent flavor. indet., potato leaf, 8-16 oz large pink fruit. First fruit on each plant is fused and huge. Juicy flesh with small seed cavities and small seeds, excellent smooth balanced flavor. Mikado Zheltyy- Mid-season variety (130-140 days). Bush growth up to 150-250cm. The fruits are large, fleshy, thick, yellow, weight 300-600g, excellent flavor. Pertsevidnyy Rozovyy= High-yielding, medium-early variety (90-100 days). Indeterminate tomato plant, forms a tall bush. Oblong-shaped, pink, dense and smooth fruits, weight 100-150g (3.5-5 oz.) with a magnificent taste. Resistant to cracking. For open ground and greenhouses. Solovey Razboynik- Mid-season (105-115 days) indeterminate Ukrainian heirloom for open ground and greenhouses. Very delicious, large, fleshy, dense, sweet pink-red colored fruits weight 400-500g (14-18oz.). Excellent productivity even under hot conditions. Tarasenko Rozhevyy- Mid-season variety. A compact high plant with round pink fruits, weighing 80 - 90 g (2.5-3 oz). The variety has excellent taste and a high resistance to diseases. For universal use. Vezunchik- Ultra-early, high-yielding Ukrainian heirloom. Determinate (bush) tomato, plant grows up to 40cm (16in.) height. Round, red, dense, sweet with light acidity tomatoes, weight 150-200g (5-7oz.). Resistant to diseases and changing weather conditions. |
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