Experts- please help me ID this massive black

[heirloomdaddy]

I was just at the local supermarket getting grabbing a few supplies for tonight's dinner, and out of habit checked if anything looked good in the heirloom tomato section. It's usually a bunch of completely under-ripened green zebras and others from mexico. Today I saw this, and a few of its siblings. It felt and smelled great so i bought it, tasted it, freaked out for the flavor, and saved the seeds. I'm shocked as the heirlooms from this market are usually quite terrible and over priced. My guess is black from tula? There were 2 or 3 more in this ballpark size-wise, but this one measured in at 21 ounces. The others were probably 18-20. Please let me know what you think of the attached photos. I apologize in advance for my terrible photography.

[dustdevil]

Doesn't look like Black of Tula to me.

[Suze]

Do you still have a piece or two of that tomato left? If so, pull off some of the epidermis to determine whether it is yellow or clear.

Might not help with an ID, but it certainly couldn't hurt.

[nctomatoman]

I've grown Cherokee Purple or Cherokee Chocolate that look like that (depends upon skin color - looks Purple to me) - also Noire de Charbonneuse. Probably no way to know for absolute sure....the key - does it taste good, and was it worth the price?

It is too large for Black from Tula.

[heirloomdaddy]

unfortunately no go on the epidermis, that tomato was thrown into a stew..coincidentally a native american recipe. my gut told me that this was a cherokee purple. That was my first guess, as there were some toms there that I would have bet were cp's. The taste was fantastic, and 6 bucks for a tomato isn't cheap, but I got well over one hundred seeds out of this guy. The taste was very rich and well balanced. Full-bodied but not overly acidic nor sweet. My money is on Cherokee purple, as they had a selection of the standards...pink brandywine, green zebra, etc....

[carolyn137]

I hate to say it but there are now so many large dark ones, I'd estimate close to 100 or so listed in the SSE Yearbook, that I think there's no way that anyone can ID a variety just by a picture, even those who have grown a lot of so called blacks.

When I read through that section of the Yearbook where most are listed it amazes me to see so many newly listed varieties each year, but where there's demand the varieties will follow even if they aren't all distinct varieties.

[sfmathews]

No matter, it looks delish!

[Mojo]

Probably too large for a Black Krim --plus you'd instantly know a BK by the salty undertones. My gut says CP as well.