Member discussion regarding the methods, varieties and merits of growing tomatoes.
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July 5, 2013 | #1 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Sacramento, California
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So far not impressed with blue tomatoes
I still need most of the blue varieties to come in but so far they seem to be lacking in the flavor department (but sure are pretty).
What has been other people's experience? |
July 5, 2013 | #2 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
Posts: 1,109
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I did a taste testing last year with what varieties I had available, the thread is here somewhere. There were some winners, but quite a few fell into the 'Ok' category. It's still pretty early in the process of integrating the antho genes into breeding programs to try to find good flavor.
Which ones have you tried? |
July 5, 2013 | #3 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Near Reno, NV
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Wild Boar Farms and Artisan Seeds are both doing crosses with blue tomatoes that put taste first instead of looks. I'm trying several new to me this year from both vendors and I have high hopes from them. The first blue tomatoes were awful tasting, but pretty. Now, they are being crossed with different colors, shapes and sizes. Don't give up!
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July 7, 2013 | #4 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 57
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I grew Indigo Rose last year. I thought the flavor was nothing to write home about.
I had obtained the seeding from a vendor at a nearby greenmarket (what farmer's markets are called here in NYC). I noticed this vendor wasn't selling this variety again this spring. |
July 8, 2013 | #5 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Finland, EU
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I've seen the Indigo Rose pics and although it looks pretty, that alone is not enough for me to justify getting some seeds and going through the work of planting and caring for them.. I love gardening and enjoy caring for my tomato plants, but not if the only payoff will be in the decorative / ornamental department..
As for the health benefits, I wonder if the higher amounts of anthocyanins might have any remarkable effects..? |
July 8, 2013 | #6 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northeast Wisconsin, Zone 5a
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Indigo Rose was not impressive from a flavor standpoint here either. A couple of Tom Wagner's varieties fared better. This year I have some from Brad Gates in the field as well, Brad has a pretty good track record for getting some good tasting varieties.
I think there is a paper referenced around here somewhere that lends credibility to the idea that the cherry sized blue varieties have the potential for benefits. This year I'm crossing some blue lines with various currant types to get an even higher proportion of skin to fruit. |
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Crosstalk™ Forum Moderator
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When I see blanket comments without relationship to a variety I can only assume that we are talking about the founding variety: Indigo Rose. My friends in Hawaii were so sure they wouldn't like the Indigo Rose but were shocked to find that they liked them. Maybe not as much as some of my blues....
As a breeder/vendor, my varieties are poorly vetted since I don't have the distribution that Indigo Rose has had. I think we still have to learn how to best grow the varieties and practice when to pick them and consume them. I am still learning! Quote:
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July 8, 2013 | #8 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Wisconsin
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Last year due to the crummy weather, my Indigo Blue plants went out rather late. Because of that they were quite late here.
While they set fruit and colored up blue fairly soon, they were VERY slow to actually ripen. If you picked them before the non-blue portion turned pink, they didn't taste good at all. When pink tho, they weren't bad. So part of the taste issue is educating people when to pick. I'm sure plenty of people thought they were ripe when they saw the blue. Even that vendor of the plants may not have known when and thought "I can't sell something this awful" so didn't grow it again. Carol |
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Tomatovillian™
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July 8, 2013 | #10 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Finland, EU
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That is fascinating. keep up the good work!
I'm sure there is ... and I appreciate beauty wherever it is. As a hobby gardener with limited resources and space, I however rather put those energies towards growing some good-tasting varieties. It would be great to get the extra health benefits along with great taste - just like is the case with wild blueberries that soon will be ready to be picked. Last edited by NarnianGarden; July 8, 2013 at 03:18 PM. |
July 8, 2013 | #11 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: indiana
Posts: 18
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I'm thinking about getting a seed packet of "dancing with smurfs" for next year.
http://sustainableseedco.com/organic...th-smurfs.html |
July 9, 2013 | #12 | |
Tomatovillian™
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Location: selmer, tn
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July 9, 2013 | #13 | |
Crosstalk™ Forum Moderator
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One of the major problems of creating new tomato varieties such as blue tomatoes is how to maintain some control on the seed.
You can't! The breeder doesn't even get to write the descriptions. But I suppose a misquote of an old adage... "Flattery is the sincerest form of imitation" applies...I should be flattered that others are selling my varieties. Few, however, even take the time to honor the breeder of varieties such as DANCING WITH SMURFS.......but they are giving the variety a thumbs up with comments like...a real true tomato flavor! ..... Quote:
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July 9, 2013 | #14 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I love my Indigo Rose. I planted it in my front garden so that dog walkers have something to admire while their critter urinates on my mailbox post. It is my first mater plant to bear fruit this year. I'd much rather have a decorative ornamental tomato than a basketful of annuals. Although I am considering a ring of Venus flytraps around my mailbox next year...lol
Last edited by Rideau Rambler; July 9, 2013 at 12:56 PM. Reason: used slang term for urination |
July 9, 2013 | #15 |
Tomatovillian™
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Iowa
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I find this interesting. My experience with the blues has been quite good. I have about 50 varieties growing(my own and others; hearts ,pastes, cherries, beefsteaks, dwarfs). Tom Wagner's have been extremely early for me(Chocolate blues, blue bayou, Blue pitts, dancing with smurfs,..and a couple more) . And loaded with fruit, in spite of one of the worst growing seasons in the last century.
Compared to Indigo rose, which is ok to good for me(and not set fruit yet this year), these others are excellent. |
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