[Greatgardens]

Here's another tangent to the original question... Are there any Determinate true grape tomatoes? I've kept pretty much up to date on the dwarf project released varieties, and I don't remember any grape dwarfs (yet).

Edit: Is Elfin (OP) a grape tomato or a grape-shaped cherry? I've seen it described both ways. I've also seen it described as Det. and Indet. So maybe it is semi-det.? Looking through my seed collection, I found a package of Elfin from Tomato Growers Supply, but no date on the package. Their description is "grape shaped cherry." The seeds are absolutely tiny and dark-colored.