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Old January 18, 2008   #12
Granny
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Originally Posted by bcday View Post
The explanation I found and posted above says to process tomatoes in their own juice for 1 hour and 25 minutes, which by my math equals 85 minutes, not 45. So the processing time in their own juice would be the same as for "no added liquid", right? The only ones processed for 45 minutes are those packed in water.
Guess I misread the middle bit. My apologies.

Meanwhile, have a gander at the various timings here - National Center for Home Food Preserving
http://www.uga.edu/nchfp/how/can3_tomato.html

Hot pack tomato and vegetable juice gets 40 minutes processing while straight tomatoes hot packed get 85? Does not compute. My pre 1994 canning books (these documents were last revised in 1994) say 45 minutes.

The Farm Journal Freezing and Canning Cookbook actually goes into the new, longer (then) processing times. They mention newer low acid tomato varieties and a couple of cases of botulism in home canned products as the cause of the increase. The most cogent explanation that they give for the cases of botulism (not supposed to happen in acidic foods) is canning of tomatoes that are from dead plants, over ripe or somehow decayed in spots, leading to a pH higher than 4.5. And botulism spores would be the only reason that I can think of for processing tomatoes for 85 minutes. The rational for overprocessing whole tomatoes while not doing so to chopped or juiced tomatoes (even when combined with vegetables that are not normally canned by boiling water bath) escapes me though.

Still have not found any evidence though - just the bald statement of 85 minutes. that is one recommendation I have absolutely NO intention of following any more than I will follow the USDA's latest recommendation to eliminate corn from my diet so that I can be "healthier". (Read "so that there is more available for High fructose corn syrup and biofuel.)

But then I have yet to figure out how the heck Salmonella (enteric bacteria, found in manure) has managed to find its way inside of unshelled almonds (grown on trees, machine harvested, never touch the ground) so that all almonds sold in the US must now be "pasteurized" - and thus denatured.
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