I just thought I would toss this in as far as how to tell if a persimmon is ripe.
First off they grow wild in Texas as in most of the rest of the USA I have lived in.
A persimmon is ripe when it is gone from the tree.
Thats right, the possums and racoons and anything else that likes them will surely get there before you will.
After the first frost is when we/they eat them.
Worth