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Originally Posted by joseph
Here's a photo of pollinated garlic seeds ( Allium sativum) that I grew in my garden last year. I am growing more this year, because I really really don't like growing clones.
It's hard to correct an entire civilization that has believed for thousands of years that garlic is sterile and that bulbils are seeds. I normally don't even try. For the past 6 months I have purposefully avoided commenting on this thread.
Durgan: Your guides seem so authoritative, but their credibility is seriously compromised because the language is antiquated in regards to the definition of a "garlic seed". Your guides would carry more weight if they used more accurate descriptions. Bulbils are not seeds.
Another photo is at: Going to Seed
Here's some background reading on current amateur and professional research into the production of true garlic seeds: - The most informative page on the web for home growers. Garlic Analecta: Growing Garlic from True Seed. 2012. Ted Jordan Meredith and Avram Drucker, Oregon.
- Going To Seed has successfully grown lots of true garlic seeds! 2012. Dan Brisebois, Ontario Canada.
- Seed grown Rocambole cultivars for sale. 2011. Ivan W. Buddenhagen, south-west Oregon.
- Seed Savers Exchange: Growing Garlic from True Seed. 2012- . Ted Jordan Meredith, et al.
- Homegrown Goodness plant breeding forum: True Garlic Seed. 2011- . Holly Dumont, et al.
- True Seeds in Garlic 2004. Rina Kamenetsky, Israel.
- Variation in Reproductive Characteristics and Seed Production in USDA Garlic Germplasm Collection. HortScience 39(3):485-488. 2004. M. Jenderek, R Hannan.
- Flowering, Seed Production, and the Genesis of Garlic Breeding. 4086 P-05 8/18/03 12:07 PM Page 211-243 Philipp W. Simon, Maria M. Jenderek
- Environmental Control of Garlic Growth and Florogenesis J. AMER. SOC. HORT. SCI. 129(2):144151. 2004. Rina Kamenetsky, Idit London Shafir, Hanita Zemah and Amalia Barzilay, H.D. Rabinowitch.
- Genetic Diversity among U.S. Garlic Clones as Detected Using AFLP Methods. J. AMER. SOC. HORT. SCI. 129(4):559569. 2004. Gayle M. Volk1, Adam D. Henk, and Christopher M. Richards
- Within- and Between-family Variability for Important Bulb and Plant Traits among Sexually Derived Progenies of Garlic. HortScience 40(5):1234-1236. 2005. Maria M. Jenderek, Yayeh Zewdie.
- The First Genetic Linkages among Expressed Regions of the Garlic Genome. J. Amer. Soc. Hort. Science 130(4):569-574. 2005. Yayeh Zewdie, Michael J. Havey, James P. Prince, Maria M. Jenderek.
- Blog Kamenetsky Goldstein Rina, Prof. The Agricultural Research Organization of Israel, Volcani Center, State of Israel / Ministry of Agriculture and Rural Development. 2008-12-10
- My web site: True Garlic Seed
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This is really fascinating, Joseph. Thanks for all the links.
My friend gave me an armload of scapes last summer from a Music strain another friend has been growing for decades, selecting for larger and fewer bulbs. A couple of the scapes started to flower, and I left them in the vegetable bin without any water or attention and got a nice bunch of bulbils which I planted last fall.
I hate to say it, but, there were a couple of seeds in the bin which I threw away, having no idea there was such a thing as true garlic seed.
I thought they must be mouse sh**. Although I do not have mice.
I had never even heard of bulbils before I saw them on the scapes - I have never grown garlic before because I didn't have "seed" so I was just thrilled to discover that the bulbils could be planted.
I got some nice size rounds from my largest bulbils, which I'll plant this fall, but certain to repeat the experiment with scapes, and I won't make the mistake of discarding true seed again, if I get some.
My garlic growing adventures have just begun...
