Sorry Carolyn- I just got the words in the wrong context- but it virtualy amounts to the same meaning.
But I am still a little suprised that the seeds are ready for harvesting from what I used to deem as unripe tomatoes and this new ( to me ) concept is going to take a little getting used to- but I fully intend to carry out little experiments over the next couple of seasons to compare results from it.
From the several types of breaker stages you outlined- which one do you think would be the one to give the best results for germination - as a rough guideline to get started with.