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KarenO August 20, 2016 04:45 PM

F2 of a grocery store hybrid paste
 
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Labelled the "chefs tomato" I bought a clamshell of grocery store pastes last winter and I liked them enough to save seed which is actually saying something. Anyway I grew out a couple this year in a pot and they are doing better than I would've thought nice plants pretty little oval plums with virtually no gel at all in the loculus. I haven't had a ripe one yet but I did eat the semi right one (pic below) and it tastes good although I am quite sure it'll taste better once they are ripe obviously. The plants are big and bushy and healthy and I think I might keep going with this one as it's going to be a really good OP cooking tomato if it will stay this way.

KarenO August 20, 2016 04:48 PM

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Plants (4) in one big pot
Foliage is nice too

KarenO August 20, 2016 05:06 PM

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interior of a blushing unripe fruit. solid, meaty, no gel.
KarenO

carolyn137 August 20, 2016 05:12 PM

Karen,if it's the Chef's Orange ,there's another thread about it here that might interest you but maybe a search since I don't remember where it is.:)

Carolyn

KarenO August 20, 2016 05:29 PM

[QUOTE=carolyn137;587921]Karen,if it's the Chef's Orange ,there's another thread about it here that might interest you but maybe a search since I don't remember where it is.:)

Carolyn[/QUOTE]

Hi Carolyn, the tomatoes I bought were a nice dark red. Roma shape and no gel. "Tesoro intense" touted as the chefs tomato. Google search shows info from commercial greenhouse producer.
I don't believe it is the same one as you mention.
Anyhow, I'm certain the fruit I bought was hybrid so might be fun to bring this forward and make it OP :yes:
Karen

Gardeneer August 20, 2016 08:21 PM

If both of your plants are identical ( fruits, foliage ) Then by the probabilities, there is is good chance that F3 generation will be the same.

AlittleSalt August 20, 2016 09:33 PM

Karen, that is a beautiful plant and nice looking fruit. I don't remember ever seeing a tomato look like that inside.

It will be interesting to see how the F3s grow and produce next growing season.

korney19 August 20, 2016 10:55 PM

[QUOTE=KarenO;587920]interior of a blushing unripe fruit. solid, meaty, no gel.
KarenO[/QUOTE]

Thanks for cutting it the proper way!

KarenO August 21, 2016 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=Gardeneer;587959]If both of your plants are identical ( fruits, foliage ) Then by the probabilities, there is is good chance that F3 generation will be the same.[/QUOTE]

Subtle differences. Other plant has smaller more blunt fruit.
K

KarenO August 21, 2016 08:13 PM

[QUOTE=korney19;588003]Thanks for cutting it the proper way![/QUOTE]

What other way is there to show a cross section of the fruit

Gardeneer August 22, 2016 06:41 AM

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[QUOTE=KarenO;588136]What other way is there to show a cross section of the fruit[/QUOTE]
That is the best way, Karen.
But one can also cut this way :

carolyn137 August 22, 2016 09:46 AM

[QUOTE=Gardeneer;588184]That is the best way, Karen.
But one can also cut this way :[/QUOTE]

If it was a heart I'd agree,but it isn't a heart,as you show, as compared to the fruit form that Karen showed.

Carolyn

korney19 August 23, 2016 01:52 PM

[QUOTE=KarenO;588136]What other way is there to show a cross section of the fruit[/QUOTE]

I was just praising you, I mean you can learn or show more about a variety by cutting it horizontally and not vertically. Cutting vertically falsely makes it look more meaty. I say falsely because it's a phony way to make it look meaty and it could just mean it was cut between locules/seed pockets, and we'd never know how many locules it ever had--it could be a watery, seedy tomato behind that wall! Cutting horizontally (equatorially?) doesn't hide anything. Heart shaped fruits are obvious from the outside, there's no need to cut them vertically to show they are hearts.

carolyn137 August 23, 2016 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=korney19;588474]I was just praising you, I mean you can learn or show more about a variety by cutting it horizontally and not vertically. Cutting vertically falsely makes it look more meaty. I say falsely because it's a phony way to make it look meaty and it could just mean it was cut between locules/seed pockets, and we'd never know how many locules it ever had--it could be a watery, seedy tomato behind that wall! Cutting horizontally (equatorially?) doesn't hide anything. Heart shaped fruits are obvious from the outside, there's no need to cut them vertically to show they are hearts.[/QUOTE]

Mark,I didn't get the praise part after what you posted initially,and Karen responded and perhaps Karen didn't either based on her response to you as well..

Looks to me like a misunderstanding and now all is well.:)

Karen very nicely cut a cross section through the middle,picture shown,which does show the locule arrangement .:)

Carolyn

KarenO August 23, 2016 10:32 PM

Oh I see. cutting what I would call lengthwise. I agree, it doesn't show the locules accurately. To show a tomato interior, I always cut in half in a cross section horizontally which shows the interior pattern better, locules as well as coloration in the case of a bicolor for example.
KarenO


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