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Stainless April 21, 2015 08:01 PM

Can someone help me diagnose the issue with my transplants?
 
I planted these a few weeks ago because they had outgrown their cups. I planted them in potting mix from the 5.1.1 method. Added just a little compost to the mix. We've had fairly warm days and cooler nights. Most nights averaging in the 50's. The leaves are turning yellow and this is happening on many different varieties. We have had lots of rain but these containers should be draining fairly good.

Any suggestions? I thought about some sort of foliage fert but don't want to make it worse.
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Worth1 April 21, 2015 08:06 PM

Is that charcoal in the containers?

One I think your nights are a little cold and that is why they are purple.

Can you show a picture of the whole plant?

Worth

Stainless April 21, 2015 08:15 PM

No charcoal. Here are some more pics. These plants are planted deep too. They got too tall so I clipped the lower branches and planted them deep.
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heirloomtomaguy April 21, 2015 08:18 PM

Im going to say lack of fertilizer and a slight case of sunburn

Worth1 April 21, 2015 08:36 PM

[QUOTE=heirloomtomaguy;466715]Im going to say lack of fertilizer and a slight case of sunburn[/QUOTE]

I think you are right and with a little warmer weather and warmer nights they should jump right out of it.
I have had plant look like this and they did just fine.

Thanks for adding the photos Stainless.:)

Worth

Stainless April 21, 2015 08:42 PM

I was thinking about hitting them with some epsom salt spray.. think it would hurt it?

Worth1 April 21, 2015 08:46 PM

I cant help you there I have never used the stuff in my life.
Worth

Stvrob April 21, 2015 10:04 PM

One thing to double check....since the buckets are buried deep drainage could still be a problem regardless of the soil inside the bucket if the soil outside the bucket is clayey and saturated. You could probably lift one out and see if its wet under the bucket.

heirloomtomaguy April 21, 2015 10:11 PM

[QUOTE=Stvrob;466755]One thing to double check....since the buckets are buried deep drainage could still be a problem regardless of the soil inside the bucket if the soil outside the bucket is clayey and saturated. You could probably lift one out and see if its wet under the bucket.[/QUOTE]

Good call Stvrob. I also would not hit them with epsom salt just use a well balanced fertilizer.

UFXEFU April 21, 2015 10:39 PM

Stainless,
What size and how many drain holes in the buckets? Have you used this bucket method in the past?

Cole_Robbie April 21, 2015 10:50 PM

This:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/n60OpqY.jpg[/url]

is something eating your plants.

Gardeneer April 21, 2015 11:59 PM

As I can see in the last pictures your plants are NOT deficient in fertilizer. The new growth look dark green
Only the lower leaves are yellow. I would trim them anyway since they are too close to the soil and they will not recover .
5-1-1 mix should have pretty good drainage but I cannot tell how burying them can compromise drainage especially IF you get a lot of rain.

About Epsom Salt:
Most (if not all) fertilizers have the needed magnesium and some have also calcium that tomatoes need.
Did you add Dolomitic lime to your mix ? 5-1-1 mix has a low pH, probably around 6. So the dolomitic lime or gypsum can raise it somewhat.

On Night Temps:
Night lows in 50f is not too cold at all for tomatoes. I have mine in mid to low 40F . and it will continue like that til the end of may and will stay under 50F. That is how it has been in 2013, 14.

Gardeneer

RayR April 22, 2015 12:58 AM

What Gardener said.
Not enough information to tell what the problem is. They are looking stressed, the question is what is causing the stress?
How cool are the night temperatures? Most importantly what is the soil temperature?
What fertilizers used if any? Any purpling under the leaves? (it looks like there is on the right hand photo)

KarenO April 22, 2015 02:38 AM

I think they look cold. Don't randomly add things, the soil that deep down is cold. They will likely sit and sulk their purplish sulk until it warms up. Fertilize once they start visibly growing.
Best wishes
KarenO

BigVanVader April 22, 2015 07:24 AM

The area Cole highlighted looks like it may be aphid damage...Im no expert but you could check with a magnifying glass. My transplants had some lower leaves look like that and it was aphids. I just squish them at the start, once your plants get growing good they will be fine IMO.


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