Is there a medium to large red or black tomato that is super swee
 

Hi All,

Yes I am looking for a very sweet mid to large size tomato that is very sweet. I love Sungold or Sweet Baby Girl cherry with high brix. Are there any red or black that are anywhere near as sweet?

Thank you in advance.

Karma

I'm sure you will get a lot of replies, and I look forward to reading them myself. I don't think of reds and blacks as being sweet, at least larger-fruited ones, so I am eager to hear what everyone else has to say.

Having said that, if you let some bicolor varieties get very ripe, they are almost red-looking, at least. Lucky Cross, and the dwarf version Wherokowhai are some of the sweetest fruit I have grown.

Others that come to mind that are also not red/black are Dwarf Sweet Sue, KBX, and several green when ripe varieties like Esmerelda Golosina, Dwarf Jade Beauty, and Malachite Box. I think you would like all of the Ambrosia cherries as well.

I thought I liked sweet tomatoes, but Aunt Ginny's Purple was too sweet for me. It's a large pink.

Linda

Lucid Gem isn't red or black, but is pretty sweet when ripe.

One with a little sugar sprinkled on it, old timers used to do it all the time as well as myself.

[QUOTE=pmcgrady;673303]Lucid Gem isn't red or black, but is pretty sweet when ripe.[/QUOTE]

Good to know. I just got this one from Heritage Seeds.

I don't think of SunGold as a sweet one. Just dependably balanced
and a good producer all season. Usually one of the first of any
season.

SweetOzarkOrange is excellent and full flavored, savory sweet...
very juicy. Very dark orange and a bit low in acid that brings out
the sweet flavor. A good size at 10-12 oz. Growing again for sure.

GGWThing is a good rich fruity dark. Good size.

The only high brix I have had is still in the early grow outs of the
DwarfProject. A dark dusty pink, large cherry. Brixed at 11.5 in early September.
Hoping it holds that flavor. Buttery/savory as well as sweet.
I'll be growing it again 2018 season.

In the Winter when I have a BLT jones, I splash a scant tsp of
a good fruity wine vinegar on Kumatos from the grocery. All the
hot house toms need some help.

Hello,
I don't know of any red or black that would be described as "super sweet" or with a high brix
There are lots with a complex sweet/tart flavour though. For a black, I thought Margaret curtain was excellent. For a red, you may wish to explore some of the red, not pink hearts. some of them can be described as sweet as well but not extremely sweet like sungold.
as others have mentioned, for sweet in a full sized tomato, the bicolours and many pinks would be more reliably sweet.
KarenO

Kumato has never let us down.A commodity standard in garden,after years of growing them out.

I'm a big Sungold F1 fan but found Sweet Baby Girl a bit bland for my tastebuds. I would suggest that you try Blackberry for a black and Moya for a red beefsteak of medium to large size. Never measured their brix but they are our sweet favorites in those color categories. Also agree with Sweet Ozark Orange being a sweet, favorite large orange beefsteak.

Variety matter, but I think it's down to having excellent soil, good growing condition, and the amount of watering. I think it's hard pressed to get beefsteak to be as sweet compared to cherry.

Last year, Paul Robeson was the sweetest medium beefsteak for me even though growing in a 5gallon grow bag.

Taste is in the mouth of the person eating a tomato and there are several cultural conditions that also play into taste.

In addtion, there are human genes involved with taste,and not just tomatoes.

Soooo, what tastes sweet to me in one season may taste very bad the next season. The perfect example for me are the gold/red bicolors.

One season lucious and sweet, next season bland and mealy for the same varieties.

I'll end by saying that the gold/red bicolors, for me, are VERY dependent on the weather,primarily,in any given season.

Carolyn

22 July 2017 Indigo Ruby Tomato
 

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This unique tomato is producing fruit which is in the growing stage not yet ripe. At first glance they look like eggplant with a jet shiny black color at the portion exposed to Sun and perfectly spherical. The underside not exposed to Sun is still green. Closely related to Indigo Rose Tomato.

[url]http://extension.oregonstate.edu/gardening/purple-tomato-debuts-indigo-rose[/url] Indigo Rose
The Indigo tomatoes will be purple where exposed to light and they tend to have a purple to black crown. They are ripe when their color changes from a shiny blue-purple to a dull purple-brown. The fruit also softens similarly to regular tomatoes, and the bottom of the tomatoes will turn from green to red when ripe.


15 August 2017 Indigo Ruby Tomato Beginning to ripen
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Ripe when the bottom of the fruit turns red. This is away from the Sun direction. The plant is prolific, and the fruit is perfect with no blemishes. The taste of the fruit is pleasant. Size is about golf ball dimensions. A bowl would be attractive at a dinner setting.

Since the ask was for a red or black tomato that is sweet.. The first one that comes to mind, and is also one that is easy to find, and easy to grow. You might try Marglobe.

The year I grew it, Anna Russian was sweet like watermelon. :surprised::yes:

And I'll add, the sweetest black I've grown iirc, Tsindao.