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marc_groleau February 6, 2014 07:23 PM

Anyone Want to Grow This Cross?
 
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I grew these F1s last summer. I crossed Cherokee Purple and Pineapple varieties.
I used pollen from CH Purple with Pineapple female and then I also crossed using Pineapple pollen with CH Purple female.
The photo above and two below are the CH Purple pollen donor. They ripened well over a week before the Pineapple pollen donor did.
Other than that, They were perfectly similar in taste (fruity), appearance, size(very large), color and productivity (high).
I can spare 10 seeds per person for a limited number of people. All I ask is that you do attempt to plant and cultivate 2 plants and that you post results. If you get anything real nice or different, it would be nice to get some seeds back.

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Below, Pineapple Pollen X CH Purple Female
These ripened later than the CH Purple donor. In fact you can see that I couldn't wait and picked these while not exactly ripe.

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Not completely ripe.

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discoprincess February 6, 2014 08:26 PM

Do you have an estimated DTM for these crosses?

How does one know when it's completely ripe? :yes:

marc_groleau February 6, 2014 08:37 PM

[QUOTE=discoprincess;390091]Do you have an estimated DTM for these crosses?

How does one know when it's completely ripe? :yes:[/QUOTE]

one was Last year everything I had took a very long time to ripen. These were 75-85 days. I wouldn't use last year as a gauge though. When they're ripe they are a uniform dark pink color. Much like the one pictured upside down in the second to last picture.

Redbaron February 6, 2014 11:10 PM

F1 or F2?


Oh and BTW that is an F1 hybrid I would grow. Beautiful tomatoes. But the F2's are likely not to be uniform at all.

Tom Wagner February 7, 2014 12:07 AM

Since I do a lot of crossing with both parents....I have an interest in a few F-2 seed. With all the crosses I made over the years with Pineapple and Cherokee Purple...I never made that very cross. I think I have over 50 crosses with those parents.

I will post my favorite Pineapple F-1 cross in May . About that same time I will have lots of F-1 of Pineapple x Undisclosed variety...hoping to get enough seed to number in the thousands.

marc_groleau February 7, 2014 06:38 AM

[QUOTE=Redbaron;390100]F1 or F2?


Oh and BTW that is an F1 hybrid I would grow. Beautiful tomatoes. But the F2's are likely not to be uniform at all.[/QUOTE]

These will be F2. You're right, they won't be uniform. That's why I'd like to get more planted than I can handle.

[QUOTE=Tom Wagner;390104]Since I do a lot of crossing with both parents....I have an interest in a few F-2 seed. With all the crosses I made over the years with Pineapple and Cherokee Purple...I never made that very cross. I think I have over 50 crosses with those parents.

I will post my favorite Pineapple F-1 cross in May . About that same time I will have lots of F-1 of Pineapple x Undisclosed variety...hoping to get enough seed to number in the thousands.[/QUOTE]

Wow! I'm interested in seeing those results.
Tom, and anyone who wants some please PM address.

Ken4230 February 7, 2014 07:22 AM

They look interesting
 
PM sent. Growing this will be like opening a Christmas present.

marc_groleau February 7, 2014 07:54 AM

[QUOTE=Ken4230;390119]PM sent. Growing this will be like opening a Christmas present.[/QUOTE]

Yeah! I hope so.

Good luck with them.

marc_groleau February 7, 2014 06:35 PM

Edit... I had posted right here that I'd run out of seeds but last year I sent Travis some F1 seeds and has kindly offered to send me more F2s. So please PM me [U][COLOR=red]not Travis[/COLOR][/U] if you want seeds.


dinca
Tom
dustdevil
crmauch
Ken4230
Doug9345
dfollet
chiefbeaz

I'll probably send them out this weekend.
Good luck and happy gardening.

travis February 7, 2014 06:49 PM

I grew two F1 plants from Marc's Cherokee Purple x Pineapple cross, and the tomatoes were very good. The plants were healthy and produced well and plenty. I did not have the concentric cracking problems shown in some of the photos. Most of the ones I grew were near perfect.

marc_groleau February 7, 2014 07:11 PM

Thanks for the input Travis.
Did you save any seeds for yourself?

I only had that cracking on a few. The photos are from some of the first ripe fruit.
Later produce was near perfect as well. We had a crazy spell of weather last season.
Ultimately, I had a very good season overall.

travis February 8, 2014 07:51 AM

Yes, Marc, I saved a sufficient supply of F2 seeds, and if you need any for sharing with others, just say so. I could send you several hundred if you need them.

I think this cross has a lot of potential for all sorts of recombinations: Purple, black, purple or black bicolors (like Ananas Noir) with GWR bicolors streaked with blood red flesh, etc.; yellows, green when ripes, and even whites streaked with red, etc.

And I think there is a tremendous chance of lots of different color recombinations with great flavor.

marc_groleau February 8, 2014 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=travis;390235]Yes, Marc, I saved a sufficient supply of F2 seeds, and if you need any for sharing with others, just say so. I could send you several hundred if you need them.

I think this cross has a lot of potential for all sorts of recombinations: Purple, black, purple or black bicolors (like Ananas Noir) with GWR bicolors streaked with blood red flesh, etc.; yellows, green when ripes, and even whites streaked with red, etc.

And I think there is a tremendous chance of lots of different color recombinations with great flavor.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Travis,
I'll take you up on your offer.

So fellow gardeners, if you want seeds send me a PM. I'll send them out as soon as I receive more from Travis..

marc_groleau February 10, 2014 05:44 PM

In case I missed messaging any of the folks listed in post#9,
the seeds were mailed today.

I should have more soon if anybody else is interested

The Future February 14, 2014 09:13 PM

I'm game


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