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mdvpc June 13, 2010 04:01 PM

NuMex Heritage 6-4
 
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Photo of my Numex Heritage 6-4 today, 6/13/2010. Just released a few months ago form NMSU Chile Pepper Institute. Just starting to set fruit.

[url]http://newscenter.nmsu.edu/news/article/?action=show&id=4678[/url]

rnewste June 13, 2010 04:33 PM

Hey Michael,

Those are good looking NuMex Heritage 6-4 Pepper Plants!:yes:

Mine, from the seeds you sent me are doing fine - - but far behind yours. Flowering now, but no growing fruitset. I've had a few that have dropped off the plant, which is a bit concerning:

[IMG]http://i1005.photobucket.com/albums/af179/rnews/IMG_9927.jpg[/IMG]

I am also growing Joe E. Parker and Big Jim NuMex Peppers, to compare productivity and most important, taste. Unlike most other Pepper folks, I am looking for a somewhat mild NuMex to put on top hamburgers, etc. Will be fun to see which one best fits my taste profile.

Raybo:D:D:D

mdvpc June 13, 2010 06:42 PM

Ray: The Chile Pepper Institute at NMSU also just released NuMex Heritage Big Jim. If you want seed, pm me. The Big Jim you are growing, I assume, is not the Heritage.

roper2008 June 18, 2010 04:20 PM

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Your plants are looking great. I shared some of the seeds you gave me
with someone else and I still have plenty for next year. I'm looking
forward to tasting them soon. Thank you again for being so generous.

Here is one of my plants. Looks like I can pick this one.

mdvpc June 18, 2010 04:34 PM

Roper: You are ahead of me-pls post how the taste was.

roper2008 June 18, 2010 06:14 PM

I will pick it tomorrow and grill it on my George Foreman grill. Will let you know.

rnewste June 18, 2010 06:21 PM

roper,

Those are picture-perfect Heritage 6-4 NuMex Peppers. Can you tell us your fertilization brand and method? I see you are using drip irrigation for the containers.

thanks,

Raybo

roper2008 June 18, 2010 06:50 PM

Thanks raybo. There's no drip irrigation, that's just iron pot hangers.
As for the mix, I used Scott's potting mix, pro-mix bx, little extra
agricultural vermiculite and Espoma Garden-Tone. I like to add what
I have on hand to the potting mix.

roper2008 June 24, 2010 08:31 PM

mdvpc, had a cold so I had to hold off on eating the Nu-Mex Heritage 6-4. Just
ate one today on grill. Only Nu-Mex variety I have growing, so can't do a side
by side comparison. I can say this, 'it is absolutely delicious'!! Full of flavor with
a very mild heat. I will plant more next year, yum, yum....

rnewste June 24, 2010 10:10 PM

roper,

You are making me envious!!!

Your report is consistent with the NMSU review that Heritage 6-4 is a reinvigorated version of the old Parent strain. Glad to hear the flavor bar has been raised.

My Heritage 6-4, Big Jim, and Joe E. Parker continue to grow well, but no fruitset as of today. The "heat" is on the way here in Silicon Valley, so hopefully, the NuMex plants will start to take off.

Raybo:D:D:D

mdvpc June 25, 2010 08:05 AM

Roper: Glad you liked it. My Heritage 6-4 are behind you, but I have nice fruit set, fruit is getting bigger. I just germinated and planted the second in the heritage series, NuMex Heritage Big Jim.

rnewste June 25, 2010 01:04 PM

Michael,

Do you also have some of the "standard" Big Jim to compare with? The site you posted claimed the Heritage Big Jim are hotter than the standard Big Jim. An actual taste comparison would be interesting.

Raybo

mdvpc June 26, 2010 12:43 PM

Raybo:

Sorry, I am not growing the "regular" Big Jim this year. I usually dont grow much green chile since we buy it by the bushed in the Hatch area-I could never grow as much as we use. I dont think I grew even one plant last year. But when I saw the Heritage varieties, I wanted to try them. I have had some extremely hot green chile, some I couldnt even eat from this area. Even a hotter Big Jim would not be too hot. Remember, they are going back and reintroducing Big Jim and 6-4 the way they were originally, and they were not/are not know as real hot varieties. Of course, hot for one person, could be mild for another and vice versa.

mdvpc September 22, 2010 08:40 AM

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Photo of some fruit I picked yesterday.

rnewste September 22, 2010 11:29 AM

Michael,

I grilled some of the Heritage 6-4 a few days ago and peeled the skins. Absolutely wonderful on the Hamburgers!

Raybo:D:D:D

mdvpc September 22, 2010 12:47 PM

Agree, glad we got seed. My Numex Heritage Big Jims have set-I planted them months too late, since I didnt get seed until the summer was here. I am hoping for some harvest, so I can try them.

rnewste September 22, 2010 08:05 PM

Hi Michael,

I was in Santa Fe last week and driving up and down the main drag through the commercial area on Rt14 were tents with vendors roasting their "Hatch Chiles" along the sides of the road in parking lots. Aroma was great.

At home, I tried cutting up some of the off-the plant ones and then eating them, but they were somewhat tough and bitter (compared to my Bell peppers). However, roasting them on the grille with the hamburgers and peeling off the burnt skin produced a wonderful taste treat on top of the burgers.

We never made it down to the Buckhorn Tavern to try theirs, but now I know how to prepare the NuMex Peppers to bring out their best flavor.

Raybo:D:D

RinTinTin September 22, 2010 08:51 PM

Yes, the NuMex's have a tough skin that needs to be burnt off. While it can be done in an oven (or even a microwave), the fire-roasting gives them that wonderful smoky flavor...Mesquite fire makes for a traditional SW flavor.

roper2008 September 23, 2010 09:17 PM

That's how I roast mine. On the barbeque grill. I will be trying
the NuMex Heritage Big Jim next year. I really liked the NuMex 6-4.
Since you were very generous in the seeds you sent me, I passed some
along free of charge to somone on another forum. He really liked
them and said they were very prolific. I know I will be planting
a lot more next year.

mdvpc September 24, 2010 08:22 AM

Roper

Happy I was able to send you enough seed to help out another gardener.

mdvpc October 1, 2010 04:24 PM

I tasted Numex Heritage Big Jim side by side with Numex Heritage 6-4 from my garden.

Heritage 6-4 is a very mild green chile-great for you gringos that dont like hot chile. :yes:

Heritage Big Jim is still mild to my palate, but has some heat.

Both of these are very good tasting green chile. They have a depth of flavor that is not in a lot of green chile varieties.

Ray: Dont know how I missed your post. There is a famous green chile cheeseburger restaurant in San Antonio, New Mexico. Its called the Owl Bar and Cafe. If you are ever traveling south on 25 from Albuquerque, check it out. There is a place across the street that Bobby Flay did a throw-down at, called the Buckhorn. I think the Owl is better, most people like the Buckhorn-maybe I just like funky joints that look like they have been there forever.

ireilly October 1, 2010 05:00 PM

San Antonio, NM, is where Conrad Hilton opened his first hotel of many.

rnewste October 1, 2010 05:24 PM

Hey Michael,

The day we were to go to the Buckhorn Tavern in San Antonio, my son convinced me to go here instead:

[url]http://www.tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=15923[/url]

Glad we did, but still want to check out both the Buckhorn and Owl next time we get to Santa Fe.

Raybo:D

mdvpc October 1, 2010 07:43 PM

Ray:

The Buckhorn and Owl are about 2-2.5 hours from Santa Fe. Were you going to drive that 5 hours roundtrip just for a green chile cheeseburger?

There is a website, [url]http://www.newmexico.org/greenchilecheeseburger/[/url] to check out next time you are in New Mexico.

dokutaaguriin October 2, 2010 12:35 AM

HI Michael,
Interesting link you posted. I am curious about the green chilies they use in their recipes. Do they process the chilies in any way- add something like salt? vinegar?
Any recommendations for a not too hot green chili (Jalpeno like heat)?
Jeff

franzb69 October 2, 2010 01:07 AM

tam jalapenos and jalapeno m varieties are mild in heat and i've heard taste great.

mdvpc October 2, 2010 09:58 AM

Jeff:

As far as I know, everybody here, at home and restaurants, simply roasts the green chile, most put them in ice water to take the burnt skin off, then either use it fresh or pack it in freezer bags, freeze them and take them out when needed.

Heritage 6-4 is very mild. Heritage Big Jim is much less hot, in my garden, than a Jalapeno. Sandia and Barkers would be way too hot for you. I have had some Barker's and Sandias that are super hot, much hotter than they are rated on the Scoville Scale.

So the two heritage peppers could be good for you. Joe Parker might be also.

Take a look at the New Mexico Chile Pepper Institute Scoville Scale at the top of the Pepper sub-forum-it has a sticky. That can give you a general idea of how hot different chile is.

dokutaaguriin October 2, 2010 02:03 PM

Thanks, Michael.
Jeff

Suze October 4, 2010 01:07 PM

[quote=mdvpc;185532]I tasted Numex Heritage Big Jim side by side with Numex Heritage 6-4 from my garden.[/quote]

Which one is bigger for you?

I grew the "regular" Big Jim (not Heritage) a couple of years ago, and the size was a bit of a disappointment - 4" max, I think. And that was in the late spring and fall when my peppers tend to be at their largest. In summer, they were usually even smaller than 4".

However, I have to wonder if my seed was true because one of the two plants I grew produced even smaller peppers than that, 3" max and the plant did not get nearly as tall. Both were grown in similar conditions.


In other news, I'm very pleased with the NuMex Heritage 6-4. :yes: Thanks for the seeds.

Now that it's cooled off a bit, pepper size is usually 4" to 6". I'm going to roast some today.


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