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marc_groleau June 16, 2012 05:28 AM

If I crossed a Pinapple x Cherokee Purple
 
What would be the expectation for color at F1 stage?

carolyn137 June 16, 2012 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=marc_groleau;283487]What would be the expectation for color at F2 stage?[/QUOTE]

Aren't you more interested in what the initial hybrid color would look like or do you already know that?

marc_groleau June 16, 2012 03:36 PM

Yes,
I was rushing this morning when I posted and fat fingered the "2"
Thank you.
So, what might be the expectation for the initial hybrid?

marc_groleau June 22, 2012 09:30 PM

I am going to try this cross. As I am a novice at this, it's really more of a learning experience in regard to actual process of cross pollination. I love learning and this is going to be a good experience for me. Anybody have any thoughts on what the outcome of the F1 might be?

maf June 23, 2012 01:35 PM

Not sure of the skin color of pineapple. If it has a clear epidernis I would expect a pink F1, otherwise I would expect red. Either way it should look reddish.

marc_groleau June 23, 2012 03:36 PM

Thank you maf.
Actually I believe it is bi-colored although it is mostly yellow with some reddish/pink streaking.

[IMG]http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a399/marc_groleau/pineappletomato.jpg[/IMG]

nctomatoman June 23, 2012 04:13 PM

Pretty sure it is clear skinned - so you have red flesh and clear skin - F1 should indeed be pink.

marc_groleau June 29, 2012 08:33 PM

Thanks.

Well looks like I got at least 4 tomatoes sprouting from the cross. I will be continuing to cross more buds as the flow of pollen allows. I only have one pineapple growing and 5 CH Purple. so I have to breed in spurts when the Pineapple has females ready or has some flowers that are flush with pollen. So it's slow going but at least I have these 4 and am sure there will be more to come.

travis August 10, 2013 05:32 PM

Marc, do you have any photos of the F1 fruit from your cross of Cherokee Purple x Pineapple?

Did the fruit indeed come out pink (clear skin) with green shoulders?

Do you happen to have a photo of the fruit from the original Pineapple plant?

marc_groleau August 24, 2013 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=travis;370332]Marc, do you have any photos of the F1 fruit from your cross of Cherokee Purple x Pineapple?

Did the fruit indeed come out pink (clear skin) with green shoulders?

Do you happen to have a photo of the fruit from the original Pineapple plant?[/QUOTE]

I do not have pictures of the original stock but I assure you they were quite common specimens of Pineapple and CH Purple fruit.

These are offspring of Ch Purple Female

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These are the Pineapple Female outcome

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travis August 24, 2013 10:07 PM

Okay, Marc, I got about the same results: Pink tomato with green shoulders turning a bit blotchy yellow, but with no cracking as on yours. But then I believe y'all had a particularly wet summer on the East Coast. We had a mild summer in the lower Ohio River Valley.

Good plant health. Nice stocky, indeterminate plant. Fair production. Large to jumbo fruit. Tasty, not outstanding, but solid tomato flavor.

I look forward to growing a couple of F2 vines in 2013.

marc_groleau August 25, 2013 08:23 AM

Did you find distinct difference between time to ripening of the Cherokee Purple fathered plant regular and the Pineapple fathered plant? I did. The CP Purple father was the same time to ripening as my regular Cherokee Purples and the Pineapple fathered was the same as my regular Pineapples.


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