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AlittleSalt January 3, 2019 12:11 AM

When it Rains too Much?
 
It has rained way too much here. When a container grown plant is grown in a container outdoors and the plant and container isn't too big/heavy - we can move them out of the rain. However, tomato plants grow to be large and unmovable. What is the way you use or your idea of how to divert the rain and still provide enough sunlight for them to grow outside? (Not in a green/hot house - I don't have one.)

The only idea I have is to build a structure like a pole barn with thick clear plastic as the roof and no sides. But that can cost a couple hundred dollars, and I can buy a lot of cherry tomatoes for that price at the grocery store.

It has rained so much here since September that it seriously looks like we should be growing rice and raising crayfish.

JoParrott January 3, 2019 01:54 AM

Can you wrap some plastic around the soil to keep the pots from getting too wet?

SQWIBB January 3, 2019 06:19 AM

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oakley January 3, 2019 06:36 AM

That is what I do...like above. Diverters.

bower January 3, 2019 08:38 AM

Re: "pole barn", this is the sort of structure that really works for us here. I've experimented with several 'tomato bus shelter' type structures, and they have really done the best even with a solid roof (not transparent) as long as you have them lined up at the edge to get as much sun as they can. Even a west facing structure that got no morning sun has been fine for them. Roof just a narrow 1.5 or 2 ft strip 6-7 ft above ground with open front back and sides. And that is something you can build from scrap lumber if you have any = free. :)
It is way easier than trying to make a plastic roof, which is costly not only the plastic itself but also more demanding of structural support to make it tight enough.
My old wood stacker which I've used for tomatoes has a little roof on it made of a few pieces of clapboard. Works fine for a tomato!

GrowingCoastal January 3, 2019 09:24 AM

Last year I slung a tarp over a clothesline to create a roof over tomato plants. Tied to trees and fencing it worked well. Also used a couple of metal bed frame rails to give it weight to keep it from flapping too much in the wind. Cost was only for the tarp. Simple and cheap.
(I'd show a picture but Imgur is being funny again today.)

Rajun Gardener January 3, 2019 10:01 AM

What's a crayfish?:?:))

You can build a lean-to, clothesline or ropes from trees to hang cheap plastic to get you by but I think you would be better to use shade-cloth since the temps will be so high in summer time and the SC will stop most of the rain while providing a break from the sun.

brownrexx January 3, 2019 10:21 AM

I am hoping for a less rainy growing season next year. This is the 2nd wettest year on record for us and right now I can hardly walk in the yard because the temperatures are warmer than usual and the soil is just squishy!

Covering the soil of the pot with plastic sounds like a good solution to me although the foliage will still possibly get more disease with all of the moisture. Even if you had a tent, there will still be more moisture in the air leading to the possibility of disease.

Rajun Gardener January 3, 2019 10:31 AM

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I'm hoping for a dry season too. It seems like it's been raining for a month.

AlittleSalt January 3, 2019 11:08 AM

Thank you everyone. I have thought of the diseases too - that can be caused by it staying so wet. Sqwibb, I like that, but I want to be able to remove it ... and then there would be a cage in the way. I need to give it more thought.

Rajun, Crayfish:

cray·fish
/ˈkrāˌfiSH/
[I]noun[/I]
noun: [B]crayfish[/B]; plural noun: [B]crayfish[/B]; plural noun: [B]crayfishes[/B]; noun: [B]freshwater crayfish[/B]; plural noun: [B]freshwater crayfish[/B]; plural noun: [B]freshwater crayfishes[/B]

[LIST=1] [*]a nocturnal freshwater crustacean that resembles a small lobster and inhabits streams and rivers.[/LIST]
Mudbug, Crawdad, or as I grew up calling them "Crawdeads." Craw deads :P
lol, as a child, I fished for them with a line and salt pork. I even used a Zebco 202 on a short fishing pole to fish them out of a railroad bridge. That took skill :)

upcountrygirl January 3, 2019 02:58 PM

salt, I caught them(we call them crawfish in this part of the south) with my bare hands in the creek growing up.

Cole_Robbie January 3, 2019 04:34 PM

6 mil greenhouse plastic is about 2-3 cents per square foot, at least in larger quantities. If you knew anyone with a greenhouse, they often give away their old plastic.

brownrexx January 3, 2019 05:48 PM

I thought that us Northerners called them crayfish and you Southerners called them crawdads.

In any case I only ever ate them one time and I thought that they were too tiny to bother with. They were for sale in one of our seafood markets.

rhines81 January 3, 2019 08:08 PM

Seems like the tent/tarp idea might be OK. Maybe something retractable like a shower curtain set up with aircraft (dog-run) wire to give you a roof-top during predicted all-day rains, which could be easily moved out of the way otherwise.

Worth1 January 3, 2019 08:35 PM

I dont post lightly for the most part.
In my opinion dont complain about the rain in this part of Texas.
What little difficulty it may put upon us it will surely benefit the ground water for us later on.
For years now we have been in a dry spell I enjoy seeing the ditches full of water.
Water is life in Texas.
What little inconvenience to me means nothing in the big picture.
I/we are of not of any concern to the world around us we live in.
As for the containers use your head and adapt. :):):)

Worth

AlittleSalt January 3, 2019 10:51 PM

The water tables are extremely important. and I am glad to see the rain for that reason. I too would rather see the ditches, creeks, rivers, and lakes full.

As a homeowner, gardener, and person who is at home most of the time - I'm tired of seeing all this rain since 2015. Our house and barns are turning green - it's that wet here. The raised beds I built two years ago need to be torn down because they are rotting. Being that we live out in the sticks and our septic system was built in 1993, we have lateral lines/a containment field. The rains are causing problems that are more than irritating.

As for the topic, The greenhouse plastic is definitely an idea worth looking into. I like the retractable part a lot. I did get inspired by the picture Sqwibb posted... It actually gave me a different idea that fits the different needs. I haven't seen a picture online to compare my idea to yet. I may have to build one, take pictures, and then explain it. It's supposed to warm up this weekend. I should be able to build one pretty quickly. (As long as my health agrees.)

Worth1 January 4, 2019 06:38 AM

Here is a massive sinkhole that charges the Edwards Aquifer in Texas.
This one is near San Antonio.
How would you like to fall in that thing, you would never be seen again.:shock:
[IMG]https://s.hdnux.com/photos/46/44/02/10109084/17/920x920.jpg[/IMG]

SpookyShoe January 6, 2019 05:16 PM

My Dutch iris bulbs that were in containers rotted from too much rain and too many days of lack of sun to dry out the soil. I should have been more diligent about bringing them under the shed when the weather turned foul and choosing a sunnier location in the yard in which to place the iris pots. I replant d with fresh bulbs but it's not an ideal time now.....supposedly too late.

My Foot Smells May 14, 2019 10:25 AM

Texans complaining about too much rain? Say it ain't so. :))

brownrexx May 14, 2019 11:02 AM

According to CNN yesterday, 84% of the country is above normal in rain since May 2018 and only 3% is in drought which is much lower than usual.

I have way too much rain here in PA. The ground is totally saturated and water is just laying in big puddles in the farm fields.

Last year the May strawberry crop was an almost total loss and I'll bet that happens again this year. Last year I was able to buy one quart of local berries and then they were done.

Goodloe May 14, 2019 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=brownrexx;735342]According to CNN yesterday, 84% of the country is above normal in rain since May 2018 and only 3% is in drought which is much lower than usual.

I have way too much rain here in PA. The ground is totally saturated and water is just laying in big puddles in the farm fields.

Last year the May strawberry crop was an almost total loss and I'll bet that happens again this year. Last year I was able to buy one quart of local berries and then they were done.[/QUOTE]

Same down here. Iffin it don't rain again til August, it wouldn't hurt my feelings....:no:

AlittleSalt May 14, 2019 07:51 PM

[QUOTE=Goodloe;735402]Same down here. Iffin it don't rain again til August, it wouldn't hurt my feelings....:no:[/QUOTE]

Agreed :yes:

slugworth May 14, 2019 08:31 PM

I should plant rice instead of tomatoes.
still looking for a bird with a twig in it's mouth........

Worth1 May 15, 2019 05:48 AM

Be careful what you ask for when it comes to not wanting rain. :)
Where I live much of the drinking water comes from lakes.
Lakes are notorious for evaporating much of that water instead of it being used.

Old School May 15, 2019 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=brownrexx;735342]According to CNN yesterday, 84% of the country is above normal in rain since May 2018 and only 3% is in drought which is much lower than usual.

I have way too much rain here in PA. The ground is totally saturated and water is just laying in big puddles in the farm fields.

Last year the May strawberry crop was an almost total loss and I'll bet that happens again this year. Last year I was able to buy one quart of local berries and then they were done.[/QUOTE]

I hear you /puke I didn't need to water at all last Summer here in PA. My tomatoes didn't start ripening until around the 7th of August, including the cherries. I planted a Reliance grape vine a few weeks ago. It was healthy when planted but died within a week. The leaves shriveled up and no more signs of life. It hasn't been below 38 degrees at night and the only other possibility I can think of is the Black Walnut trees nearby. There is a wild grape that grows vigorously each year within 20 feet of the new plant. My bet was too much rain :bummer:

xellos99 May 16, 2019 01:38 AM

It rains about 33% of all days in my country on average.

One place has rain 183 days a year average and almost 2000mm rain ( 80 inches )

That is about 50% of days it will rain there and 2000mm is ALOT

Old School May 17, 2019 12:24 PM

Wow xellos99, that is a lot of rain :surprised:

Update on the grape vine, it may have just been the cold. It appears to be sending out new leaves and making a comeback. I'm still blaming it on the rain though, just like the song says :P

Oh, guess what? it's raining again today here in central PA. We have seen rain almost every day for past week and a half. Sometimes all day long drizzle /puke

righand May 19, 2019 11:00 AM

Bucket Wrap
 
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I wrap my buckets with a kitchen catcher and secure with black tape, no rain water or bug issues...cheers....

bower May 19, 2019 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=xellos99;735573]It rains about 33% of all days in my country on average.

One place has rain 183 days a year average and almost 2000mm rain ( 80 inches )

That is about 50% of days it will rain there and 2000mm is ALOT[/QUOTE]


According to the stats, we have 212 days per year with at least 0.2 mm precipitation. If you leave out snow days, the number drops to just 163 rainy days per year. Yay! Total rainfall per year a meager 1500 mm/ 60.4 inches, roughly. We rank the wettest city in Canada, so I'm glad to hear there is a rainier place somewhere! :D:lol:

SteveP May 22, 2019 09:10 AM

Local weather dude said we had received 16" of rain the last 3 weeks, with nearly 10" of that the last 2 days. This too shall pass and it sure beats the alternative of severe drought IMO.


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