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gimmieToms March 27, 2018 11:00 AM

Peat pots. Yes or No?
 
I’ve never actually used peat pots before, as I’m not convinced that the roots will get through properly. However, I have one particular variety of tomato that, no matter how gentle I am, ALWAYS gets transplant shock, even when all the others are fine. It’s a delicate little muffin, although always seems to bounce back. I was wondering if peat pots will be a viable option to try and avoid the shock.
I generally start my seeds in a peat pellet, transplant in to plastic cups at around 2 weeks after sprouting, then in to large containers in the garden at the end of may.
What are your recommendations?

brownrexx March 27, 2018 11:05 AM

I hate peat pots and never use them. The roots never seem to get through mine. Why not start your seeds in a larger container in the first place to avoid transplanting at 2 weeks?

I start my seeds in those plastic cell pots and they do not get transplanted for at least a month when they go into 4" pots. After that they go into the ground.

halleone March 27, 2018 11:11 AM

I don't like them either. They dry out 2-3 times faster than the plastic starter pots. When planting them in the ground, you must remember to remove the top edge of the pot to the ground level or they will dry out and suck out moisture. I quit buying them, no matter how low the price at the end of the season sales.

I start my tomatoes in 1 quart milk carton, cut down to about 6-7 inches high. They never need to be transplanted to a larger container, develop nice root systems, and I just tear the carton apart when it is time to put them into the ground.

GrowingCoastal March 27, 2018 11:13 AM

They either dry out or grow mold up the sides. No.

Worth1 March 27, 2018 11:18 AM

I love peat pots.

Labradors2 March 27, 2018 11:33 AM

I hate peat pots.

For melons and zukes that hate to be transplanted, I make newspaper pots, making sure to bury the whole thing. They work great :)

Linda

roper2008 March 27, 2018 11:44 AM

I say no. I don't like them.

AlittleSalt March 27, 2018 12:03 PM

They are a waste of money.

SueCT March 27, 2018 12:58 PM

Big no to Peat Pots for me. I tried them, they dried out too fast, delicate new roots cannot get through them and I ended up having to peel it off and that was more traumatic to the roots. AND they grow mold. I second the starting that one in a bigger container so you don't have to disturb the roots when transplanting.

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 01:08 PM

[QUOTE=brownrexx;691689]I hate peat pots and never use them. The roots never seem to get through mine. Why not start your seeds in a larger container in the first place to avoid transplanting at 2 weeks?

I start my seeds in those plastic cell pots and they do not get transplanted for at least a month when they go into 4" pots. After that they go into the ground.[/QUOTE]

I transplant when they have two sets of true leaves so I can transplant them deeper and get a better root system. They’re already in the pellets right now, so too late to try that anyway. Perhaps I will try some like that next year.

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 01:09 PM

OK, thanks everyone. I won’t bother with the peat pots then. I’ll keep to the plastic.

ginger2778 March 27, 2018 01:24 PM

Gimme- do you remove the netting before transplanting from the pellets to the plastic cups?

sirtanon March 27, 2018 01:25 PM

As a rule, I don't like peat pots.. not porous enough, too prone to get moldy, etc..

That said, I have found them useful in some situations... although it's rare. I have found that they make watering early starts easy, since you can just sit them in a tray full of water and they'll soak it up. When I have used them, I make sure I cut plenty of holes in the sides in order to allow roots to go through.

Having said THAT, I've completely switched from using peat pots to using 'Cow Pots'. If I'm going to use pots pressed out of something, might as well make it something that benefits the plant and soil, right?

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 01:27 PM

[QUOTE=ginger2778;691720]Gimme- do you remove the netting before transplanting from the pellets to the plastic cups?[/QUOTE]

Yes, always.

ginger2778 March 27, 2018 01:34 PM

[QUOTE=gimmieToms;691722]Yes, always.[/QUOTE]

OK, that's right then.

Ann123 March 27, 2018 01:53 PM

Cow pots. Never heard of it. Just Googled it and it looks awesome. The pot is the manure. Genius.

brownrexx March 27, 2018 02:18 PM

[QUOTE=gimmieToms;691717]I transplant when they have two sets of true leaves so I can transplant them deeper and get a better root system. They’re already in the pellets right now, so too late to try that anyway. Perhaps I will try some like that next year.[/QUOTE]

I bury part of the stem when they go into the deep 4" pots and again when they get planted in the ground.

bower March 27, 2018 02:34 PM

Let me join in the chorus of hatred for peat pots. They just suck away moisture when the plant needed it, in my experience. Do not break down or mingle with the soil when stuck in the ground. Impervious to roots trying to get through, but will suck water out of the same roots, causing them to stick to the inside surface and break when you try to tear off the pot. Monstrous. :x;)

bower March 27, 2018 02:42 PM

With regards the delicate tomato, may I suggest keeping them in the pot for an extra week before transplanting?

I usually give my tomatoes 3 weeks in cell pack before potting up, and at 3 weeks those cells are full of roots and the transplants never show one sign of stress... it's all gratitude at that point. This year I decided to pot up at 2 weeks - the cells were not full of roots, some soil fell off in the process, and plants looked stressed for the first time ever I've seen on potting up. I submit that getting slightly potbound is a benefit when it comes to transplant. Even if you tear or spread the roots, they don't seem to mind it at all, compared to moving when their roots are less firm and abundant.

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 02:44 PM

[QUOTE=brownrexx;691733]I bury part of the stem when they go into the deep 4" pots and again when they get planted in the ground.[/QUOTE]

Yep, that's exactly what I do.

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 02:47 PM

[QUOTE=bower;691737]With regards the delicate tomato, may I suggest keeping them in the pot for an extra week before transplanting?

I usually give my tomatoes 3 weeks in cell pack before potting up, and at 3 weeks those cells are full of roots and the transplants never show one sign of stress... it's all gratitude at that point. This year I decided to pot up at 2 weeks - the cells were not full of roots, some soil fell off in the process, and plants looked stressed for the first time ever I've seen on potting up. I submit that getting slightly potbound is a benefit when it comes to transplant. Even if you tear or spread the roots, they don't seem to mind it at all, compared to moving when their roots are less firm and abundant.[/QUOTE]

Great suggestion thank you, I'll do just that.
Makes perfect sense.
They are in pellets though right now, is that going to be a problem when I remove the mesh?

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 02:51 PM

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SueCT March 27, 2018 03:34 PM

Personally, I don't like those much more than the peat pots. If you don't let the seedlings get too large you should be able to remove the mesh without problems, but if you get roots starting to grown against the mesh it might do the same thing as the peat pots. You might consider getting some small inexpensive cups and removing the mesh and stick each one in a cup. These are the ones I use, but they are less expensive at my local store than online, unless they have gone up quite a bit since last year. Don't think I have paid more than 2.00 for a 100.

[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Bath-Plastic-Cups-3-Oz-100-Count/12167406[/url]

gimmieToms March 27, 2018 04:24 PM

[QUOTE=SueCT;691750]Personally, I don't like those much more than the peat pots. If you don't let the seedlings get too large you should be able to remove the mesh without problems, but if you get roots starting to grown against the mesh it might do the same thing as the peat pots. You might consider getting some small inexpensive cups and removing the mesh and stick each one in a cup. These are the ones I use, but they are less expensive at my local store than online, unless they have gone up quite a bit since last year. Don't think I have paid more than 2.00 for a 100.

[url]https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-Bath-Plastic-Cups-3-Oz-100-Count/12167406[/url][/QUOTE]

Yes, I was thinking of this too. I'll wait until they sprout, because I love these little greenhouses. I have some little Dixie cups I could probably move them to.

Nan_PA_6b March 27, 2018 05:29 PM

I do like peat pots but don't use them. I love just planting the whole pot, but on rare occasions I'll find a plant that never grows beyond the pot.

Nan

ginger2778 March 27, 2018 07:53 PM

[QUOTE=Nan_PA_6b;691776]I do like peat pots but don't use them. I love just planting the whole pot, but on rare occasions I'll find a plant that never grows beyond the pot.

Nan[/QUOTE]

Yes, this.


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