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Worth1 December 13, 2015 01:39 PM

Worth's Peppers and Tomatoes For 2016.
 
I'm going to put this thread here that way I wont have two threads going on the same thing .
My babies sprouted yesterday and so far they are doing fine.
I guess it is also as good a place as any to put up my list of what I am growing this year.
This list will be in no particular order but I will try to keep them segregated the best I can.
Here is the list.
Tomatoes.

Paul Robenson.
Indian Stripe.
Black Cheery,(Cherry tomato).
Emerald Evergreen.
Aunt Ruby's German Green.
Orange Russian 117.
Azoychka.
New Big Dwarf.
Neves Azorian Red.
Galina's, (yellow cheery type).
Riesentraube.
Here is what was sent to me by Container Ted out of the goodness of his heart while he had all of the other things going on.
Some I didn't plant so they aren't on the list.
These are the ones I planted.
Thank you Ted
Dwarf Sweet Sue, one of these is sprouting.:yes:
Dwarf Kelly Green.
Maidens Fire.
Kenai Mondo Green.
Looks like I have my share of greens and dwarfs this year.:yes:
Here are the Peppers.
The first two are what Ted sent me.
Aji Amarillo.
Peppa Dew.
I need to add New Mex Big Jim Lumbre,(meaning fire).

Here are the rest.
Jamaican Hot Yellow.
Jamaican Hot Red.
Red Mushroom.
Yellow Mushroom.
Bulgarian Carrot.
Habanero Red.
Lemon Drop AKA Aji Limon.
These peppers are ones I saved seeds from ripe or dried peppers I bought at the store.
Manzano, fresh fruit.
Fresno, fresh fruit.
Guajillo, dried fruit.
Chili Arbol, dried fruit.
Nome of the peppers have sprouted and I didn't expect them to this quick but I have no doubt they will.

Here is a pictuer of what is going on today, 12/13/2015.
No stretching yet with the new light setup.
You will notice I am doing nothing with the helmet heads most of the time they grow right out of it.

Worth1 December 13, 2015 01:43 PM

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Pictures 12/13/2015.
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Zana December 13, 2015 01:47 PM

Looking good so far Worth. I've grown most of the tomatoes you list and some of the peppers you list. (Not familiar with the "mushroom" ones.)

AlittleSalt December 13, 2015 02:00 PM

Looks good Worth.

Maiden's fire from Ted is one we'll be growing. Black Cherry from 2007 Tomato Growers is another.

tyrupp December 13, 2015 02:10 PM

I like your seed trays,were can I get some like that ?

mdvpc December 13, 2015 02:12 PM

Worth-Surprised you started so early. When do you expect to plant out?

Worth1 December 13, 2015 02:31 PM

[QUOTE=AlittleSalt;518575]Looks good Worth.

Maiden's fire from Ted is one we'll be growing. Black Cherry from 2007 Tomato Growers is another.[/QUOTE]
Have you given black cherry a test sprout?

[QUOTE=tyrupp;518579]I like your seed trays,were can I get some like that ?[/QUOTE]
While lookig for new lights and such for my seedlings Home Depot still had a little corner with seeds and such.
It is Christmas time and I have never seen this before.
Maybe it is because I chew them out this time of the year for not having something.:lol:
I found everything I needed to start seeds.
Jiffy organic seed starting soils and the Pro Hex seed trays.

[QUOTE=mdvpc;518581]Worth-Surprised you started so early. When do you expect to plant out?[/QUOTE]

I put in new lights and wasn't for sure my new experiment would work or not so I jumped the gun and started early encase of failure.
The other two reasons were my volunteer Orange Russian plant I had one year that did so well that sprouted in November.
This thing sprouted in a pile of soil about 6 inches deep at the edge on my concrete driveway.
What this driveway did was absorb heat during the day and kept the soil warm on top of it.

And AKMark starting seedlings in December in Alaska.
For Tomatoes and bloom set Texas and Alaska have about the same amount of time sort of.
I think I am only 18 or so days earlier than any other year i sprout seeds.
Perfect timing for peppers and early for tomatoes.
I will plant out as usual in early march and have back ups.
BIG back ups plus a plan.:lol:

Worth

Gardeneer December 13, 2015 02:57 PM

Good luck, Worth !:aprd:

jillian December 13, 2015 03:28 PM

Looking good Worth!

Worth1 December 13, 2015 03:36 PM

[QUOTE=Zana;518570]Looking good so far Worth. I've grown most of the tomatoes you list and some of the peppers you list. (Not familiar with the "mushroom" ones.)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gardeneer;518606]Good luck, Worth !:aprd:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=jillian;518621]Looking good Worth![/QUOTE]


Thanks guys.
So far no stretching the only problem I have is there are two chairs at the growing table.
Smoky the cat and I keep fighting over them. :lol:
She is a sassy little thing.
Worth

KarenO December 13, 2015 03:55 PM

Nice to see the babies Worth. There's nothing much I like better than seedlings sprouting
Best wishes for a great season!
Karen

AlittleSalt December 13, 2015 05:17 PM

Funny you should ask Worth. I just brought in a seed tray to try them out. I found some wind damage from last night's storms when I was out getting the tray. There's a 3.5" branch twisted off and blew around 20' from the tree. I slept right through it.

greyghost December 13, 2015 05:25 PM

Really nice varieties, Worth. Looks like a great start! Watch Smokey around
your pepper seedlings. Cats seem to find pepper plants tasty; tomatoes, not so much-thank goodness. Darlene

Gardeneer December 13, 2015 06:38 PM

Talking about the variety, I like them a lot.
Four of those in Worth's list, happen to be in my list as well.
And I will try some of the others in the future. Like Paul Robson, NAR, Orange Russian.

Gatdeneer

Worth1 December 13, 2015 06:46 PM

I forgot to order Kosovo seeds.:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:

Worth

mdvpc December 13, 2015 06:56 PM

Worth-I will plant out in March also. But I don't start until end of January-at least that is what I did this year-had my best year ever.

Worth1 December 13, 2015 07:06 PM

Michael I am doing everything this year different because I like to experiment and push the envelope.
If I dont I I get bored.
The two raised beds are reserved for okra.this year.
I think eight twelve foot rows adding up to 96 feet of okra will work out just fine.:yes:
Worth

Worth1 December 13, 2015 10:13 PM

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Here's two New Big Dwarf helmet heads the one on the right was like the one one the left.
Let's leave them alone and see what happens.
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AlittleSalt December 13, 2015 11:00 PM

I really like the Pro Hex seed trays. We bought ours back in late 2014 from Wally World. I also bought the Jiffy Seed starting mix. I'm going to mix it with a different brand of Pro Mix that I have left from 2014.

This past February, When potting up - I used MG Organic mix for the first two hundred or so plants. When I planted in solo cups for the fall garden - I had to use the MG regular mix - the one with the flavor berries in it... [URL]http://www.miraclegro.com/smg/goprod/miracle-gro-potting-soil/prod70332[/URL] I liked how dark green they grew in the who-knows-what's-in-it MG mix.

What are you going to use to pot up in 2016?

AKmark December 14, 2015 01:25 AM

Worth, you are not allowed to start tomatoes earlier than me. (lol) Actually I am happy to see that, I am getting ready myself.

Take care, I see your leaving the Slope behind has perks.

loulac December 14, 2015 03:06 AM

I'm a bit late to jump on that train I've just discovered but I think these early starts of tomatoes will require lighting and heating for several months. I'm not familiar with the price of electricity in the States so I can't guess how much money one has to spend though I know that when one loves one doesn't count.

Gardeneer December 14, 2015 04:48 AM

[QUOTE=loulac;518710]I'm a bit late to jump on that train I've just discovered but I think these early starts of tomatoes will require lighting and heating for several months. I'm not familiar with the price of electricity in the States so I can't guess how much money one has to spend though I know that when one loves one doesn't count.[/QUOTE]
The cost of energy paid by the consumers is still very low, compared to Europe. Because the government here does not put a lot of tax on it. For example one gallon of gas cost about $1.80 to $2.50, depending on the location, today.
Cost of electricity to run CFL bulbs, each with 32w rating is very reasonable as well.
For example I pay about 13 cents per kwh, factoring in the basic monthly fee.
To run a twin bulb CFL (T8-48") 12 hr on/ 12 hr off , for one month will cost me $3.00. I use 3 of them for 2 month >>> total cost = under $20.

Gardeneer.

Worth1 December 14, 2015 08:04 AM

I'm going to get off the subject of seedlings for a minute and make a comment on electricity.
Some of the people around here run flood lights all night long and many of them are the incandescent ones.
I dont and I dont want to be lit up when I walk outside.
These people are scared to death of the dark.:lol:
All of my lights in the house are LED or CFL and I keep it cool in the winter.
If I go to my neighbor ladies house it is like a furnace at 80 degrees if it get to 70 outside she puts a sweater on.:shock:
I went to the store the other day it was in the 60's and people had coats on.
Just about anyone's house I go in young or old is burning up hot in the winter.

Worth

recruiterg December 14, 2015 08:10 AM

Worth, I tried to save seeds from a dried Guajillo from the store and I couldn't get any of them to sprout. I assume used heat to dry them. Were you able to get them to germinate?

Worth1 December 14, 2015 08:16 AM

[QUOTE=recruiterg;518722]Worth, I tried to save seeds from a dried Guajillo from the store and I couldn't get any of them to sprout. I assume used heat to dry them. Were you able to get them to germinate?[/QUOTE]
Last summer I tossed a bunch on the garden soil that were several years old and a pile of them came up.
I dont expect any of my peppers to sprout until a few more days.
We shall see, if they do or dont it is of no consequence to me I must have planted 40 of them and the arbol. :lol:

Worth

Worth1 December 14, 2015 08:19 AM

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Here is the helmet head this morning.
The reason I am putting this here is to show people to just leave them alone.
Most of tbe time you do more harm than good.
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Worth1 December 14, 2015 08:32 AM

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I spoke too soon, here is a Fresno seed saved from a fresh grocery store pepper sprouting. :D
These seeds were saved and dried last summer.
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Worth1 December 14, 2015 09:10 AM

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Looks like a root tail coming out of this Guajillo seed.
Peppers starting to sprout five to six days later soil temperature kept at 75 to 80 degrees F.

At night the temps probably drop to 65 or lower when the lights are off.
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loulac December 14, 2015 10:49 AM

[QUOTE=Gardeneer;518712] I pay about 13 cents per kwh, factoring in the basic monthly fee.
To run a twin bulb CFL (T8-48") 12 hr on/ 12 hr off , for one month will cost me $3.00. I use 3 of them for 2 month >>> total cost = under $20.

[/QUOTE]

Thanks for this detailed information. In fact I pay exactly the same price per kwh as 82% of our electricity comes from nuclear plants and 8% is hydroelectric The total sum of 20$ you quote is quite reasonable.

Gerardo December 14, 2015 10:54 AM

Great list. Looking good!


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