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bcday February 13, 2006 12:48 PM

Italian frying pepper?
 
What is an "Italian frying pepper"? How does it differ from other peppers?

I asked my Italian neighbor, figuring that someone born and raised near Rome would know, but he doesn't have a clue how any pepper could be called that.

-- BC --

shelleybean February 13, 2006 01:00 PM

Frying peppers usually have thinner walls than bell peppers and cook pretty quickly. They are longer and narrower than bells and taper to a point. You can use them in the green stage or when they ripen to red or yellow. They are even a few that are orange and purple. You can quickly saute them with a bit of olive oil and garlic or grill them or just use them in salads. Frying peppers do better in my garden than bell peppers.

bcday February 13, 2006 01:32 PM

Thanks, Michele!

To my neighbor, a frying pepper is any pepper that's handy when you want to fry peppers. Maybe I should have asked his wife, lol.

barkeater February 13, 2006 08:08 PM

The thing I like the most about frying peppers are that you can slice them up, freeze them, and throw them into a freezer bag for use in omelets, sauce, sausauge sandwiches, or whatever, all winter long. Unlike bell peppers, they don't have that slimy skin when they thaw.

Mantis February 15, 2006 12:35 AM

Would Corno di Toro fall into this category??

Mantis February 15, 2006 12:38 AM

Well yes, it would Richard. LOL.
I just did a google search for Italian frying pepper and the first page that came up had Corno di Toro red and yellow at the top. Should have searched first eh.

angelique February 15, 2006 01:54 AM

How many peppers does a Corno di Toro plant provide? I am trying to determine whether I need to grow 1 or 2 plants. Also, I was wondering if there is an Italian version of Chile Rellenos with sweet peppers. If there is, I would love to have the recipe. If not, I guess that I will be experimenting this summer.

Mantis February 15, 2006 05:15 AM

The Corno di Toro I grew last year (in a horrible spot), grew into a tall plant and had quite a few peppers. That being said I think I would grow more than one to get a good yeild.

Mischka February 15, 2006 12:10 PM

I would encourage anyone interested in growing "Italian" frying peppers to try "Jimmy Nardello". I've grown them every year since the seeds were offered commercially.

My great-grandmother Nonna Francesca used to grow a very similar variety and she would fry them up in some olive oil and garlic and serve them with some crusty Italian bread. Sometimes she would skim off some of the oil and pour it over freshly steamed escarole, too. Simple yet very delicious.

The smell of them cooking today fondly invokes this childhood memory. :)

You can also string up any extra peppers and dry them for later use. They are thin walled and dry beautifully...and you can add them to your recipes long after your harvest is over. :wink:

angelique February 15, 2006 12:43 PM

Hi Mischka,

Jimmy Nardello is one pepper that I would really like to try. I put it on next year's list just because I forgot to buy seeds with my Seedsavers.com order. I thought about picking them up for this year, but I think that it is too late to start them. I am Sacramento, CA Z9. Are these peppers similar to Corno di Toro? have started those already. There are several nurseries in my area, I'll check to see if any of them will be carrying Jimmy Nardello.

Thanks.

Angelique

shelleybean February 15, 2006 01:35 PM

Marconi is similar to Corno di Toro. It comes in red, yellow and purple. I have not grown the purple one but it's probably like the purple bells and turns green when cooked. You can view pictures of all of the Corno di Toro and Marconi at [url]www.tomatogrowers.com[/url] and compare.

shelleybean February 15, 2006 01:40 PM

And yes, these would be great for an Italian version of Chile Rellenos. They are fatter than the Jimmy Nardello's and easier to get the filling in, though Nardello's is a great pepper too!

I also recommend two plants because when you let peppers ripen beyond the green stage, you end up picking them sort of in waves. If you're waiting for them all to turn red or yellow, the plant will put its energy into ripening them, not making more baby peppers. With two plants, you can pick off of one while the other is in the ripening stage. As soon as you pick the ripe peppers, the plant will start producing baby peppers for the next batch. Does that make sense?

angelique February 15, 2006 03:14 PM

Thanks Shelleybean for the explanation and information about macaroni pepper. In addition to Corno di Toro, I am also growing Sweet Cayenne and Giant Aconcagua. For hot peppers, I am growing Mesilla from a seed. I'll probably pick up a jalapeno and Eisley's Wax from the local nursery.

giardiniere February 17, 2006 03:24 PM

[quote=Mischka]I would encourage anyone interested in growing "Italian" frying peppers to try "Jimmy Nardello". I've grown them every year since the seeds were offered commercially.
[/quote]

I'm growing Jimmy Nardellos this year. I'm excited to see how it does. My grandparents were born in Sicily, so I like to grow some Italian varieties. Here's an interesting article I found about Jimmy Nardello.

[url]http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2004/09/18/HOG5M8PE4Q1.DTL[/url]

montanamato February 17, 2006 03:40 PM

Jimmy Nardello has been my most prolific pepper the past 3 years, not to mention great tasting. I grow it in containers now.
Also trying Lemme's Italian, Aconcagua, Melrose, Golden Treasure, Tolli's Sweet, and Corno di Toro( which hasn't done well the last few years, so last try for CTD).
Italian frying types are my favorite by far.

Jeanne

Still watching my cells to see who the first pepper/eggplant to emerge will be.....

svalli February 17, 2006 09:10 PM

I grew Yellow Marconi and Giant Marconi last year and we loved them. We ate a lot of them in salads, since they were so sweet and produced better than my other sweet ones.

Grub February 18, 2006 06:01 AM

Thanks.
 
Thanks, Svalli,
I have and intend sowing Marconi next season. I love positive feedback. :) Grub

Julie February 21, 2006 12:40 PM

Italian Frying Pepper?
 
If you're looking for productivity, we grew out Centinel and Nardello side by side, and Centinel produced 3 peppers for every 2 Nardellos. Centinel wasn't as sweet as Nardello, but had an excellent flavor of its own.

bmckay March 12, 2006 10:37 AM

Italian Frying Peppers
 
In Italy frying peppers are a type pepper pretty much limited to the southern provinces (puglia, campagna, molise, etc). They are a smallish (4-5" long, 34/-1" wide) slightly tapered pepper, light or dark green when unripe, brilliant red when ripe, have a very thin skin & are incredibly sweet.

Each province has their own variation. In campagna, it is friariello napoleatano (friariello [friggitello in standard Italian] for frier & napoleatano for naples); friariello barese in Puglia, etc). Plants are bushy and heavy producers.

Here in the US, there is a pepper popular in the Upper Midwest called Melrose which is an Italian frier brought to the US by migrants from Southern Italy and it became widely popular in the Chicago area.

It does not get much better than frying some potato, onion and peppers at the height of the season.

Bill McKay

Goddessemer6 March 30, 2006 01:09 PM

It's good to see my choices of peppers I'm growing out this year come with high recomendations! I'll be doing Jimmy Nardello and Marconi Red for the first time along side a couple of bells. No hot peppers for me, but I have started about six jalapenos for my grandpa. :mrgreen: He asked me to start some bells for him too, but I've started some Marconi Reds instead...shhh, nobody tell my grandpa that I'm replacing his wally world hybrids with heirlooms...LOL

honu March 30, 2006 02:04 PM

I'm so happy to hear the good reviews of Jimmy Nardello, since I am waiting for my Sandhill order to arrive. Is it tasty eaten raw?

darlochileman March 31, 2006 10:14 AM

Hi Guys,

Weve been working on putting something together on this topic and you may find the following link useful (not yet live):

[url]http://www.thechileman.org/cooking_italian.php[/url]

Mark

Organic_Nut May 14, 2006 07:09 PM

how do these compare with the Lipstick from Johnny's.

I always grew the Lipstick. but started late this year and dont have any.

maybe Lipstick is thicker than Jimmy Nardellos
.

Organic_Nut May 21, 2006 02:19 PM

yep

I have to get some of these italian peppers for next year. I wonder if any of them have a bit of a bite. but then I could use the New Mexico type.

timcunningham May 27, 2006 07:27 AM

Darn it guys! You have gone and done it again!

After reading this thread, guess what showed up on my front porch from Seedsavers.org? Guess?

The SSE Pepper Transplant Sampler:
[url]http://seedsavers.org/prodinfo.asp?number=1291T[/url]

Which includes [b]Jimmy Nardello's[/b], Black Hungarian, Buran, Garden Sunshine, King of the North and Orange Bell.

This gardening thing is getting as costly as my wife's shoe habit! :lol:

Mischka May 30, 2006 08:42 PM

[quote=timcunningham]Darn it guys! You have gone and done it again!
This gardening thing is getting as costly as my wife's shoe habit! :lol:[/quote]

...but the peppers are SO much tastier than womens' shoes! :lol:

I can't wait for my Jimmy Nardellos...fry them up with some sweet sausage - Heaven. :D

coronabarb May 30, 2006 11:46 PM

I have been growing a frying pepper the last few years called Beaver Dam. It matures red and has a bit of heat to it. I got the seeds from the SSE yearbook and it is one of the peppers I bag to save seeds to offer at SSE. I gotta say, it is yummy fried up on a sandwich.

I'll offer seeds later this year if I get enough saved up.

montanamato May 31, 2006 02:49 PM

Barb...I have been wanting to try Beaver Dam for awhile, I am glad you give it good marks...

Sadly, my Jimmy Nardello's looked too puny and I tossed them. I do have 3 other Italian style frying peppers and the Tolli's has already set fruit in a container...Yeah ha.

Jeanne

Reign May 31, 2006 09:14 PM

Black Hungarian is so pretty. Last year I gave it a nice pot on the patio. I totally forgot to start seeds for it this season. Didn't notice until I was planting pots and couldn't find BH seedlings.

You know...I had Mischka pegged as a vegetarian. I'm almost disappointed....or something. :cry: But sausage and peppers are heavenly.

WVTomatoMan June 26, 2006 10:08 AM

I think Jimmy Nardello really shines when you let it turn red. IMHO it doesn't taste nearly as good at the green stage.

Randy


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