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Anthony_Toronto March 1, 2014 06:48 PM

Trailing/Vining Zucchini?
 
[FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]Looking for source for seeds for a trailing zucchini...a neigbour had some from seeds saved from his father a few years ago...straight vine, single vine if I recall correctly, with zuchinni that were virtually identical to zucchini from regular zucchini plants. I remember one plant went from the ground up a stake across a plum tree and along the top of a fence, was probably 20 feet long with zucchini every foot or so. They weren't those long versions, curved versions, or crookneck. [/SIZE][/FONT]

jmsieglaff March 1, 2014 10:06 PM

I'm curious to the answers you get. I don't know of an vining zucchini. Perhaps the closest would be in the trailing marrow family--something like Table Dainty?
[IMG]http://i366.photobucket.com/albums/oo107/whgille/June%20Garden%202009/100_2441.jpg[/IMG]


I've grown that (not my photo). I've also grown Tromboncino--which is actually C. Moschata eaten a few days after flowering (will mature into a butternut type squash if allowed to mature). I also have grown Tatume, which is C. Pepo and a vigorous viner--but more rounded squash that will mature into pumpkin looking things but we use them as immature summer squash. I've also grown Lemon squash--but that doesn't trail as much as it grows a central stalk that can be tied up.

I grow my summer squash on cattle panel trellis--so I'm always looking for vining summer squash/zukes but I haven't found much. In fact I'm crossing Lemon and Tatume this summer as the beginning of a breeding project looking to get some qualities of Lemon onto a Tatume growth habit.

Anthony_Toronto March 1, 2014 10:50 PM

I hope I can get in touch with the person who grew it before, but I know the second year he got seeds from his dad they didn't grow the same plant, and that was 3 or 4 years ago. Plant didn't look like the one above, was one straight line vine with no offshoots, and zucchini that looked just like regular zucchini. I haven't been able to find anything like them so far in my internet search.

amideutch March 2, 2014 06:24 AM

[url]http://www.liseed.org/trailzuc.html[/url]

Long green trailing zucchini is the only variety I have seen and seed availability from what I have found is in England and France.


[url]http://www.jandlseeds.com/Long+green+trailing+courgette+10+seeds[/url]

[url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Courgette-Zucchini-Green-Trailing-delicious/dp/B006DXM98O[/url]

Ami

nancyruhl March 2, 2014 08:10 AM

Last season, I ordered from J and L, but tried to grow them hydroponically ala [URL]http://www2.ctahr.hawaii.edu/oc/freepubs/PDF/HG-44.PDF[/URL], The first seeds rotted, and I didn't get any zucchini from the second batch. I was very disappointed not to be able to try them.

amideutch March 2, 2014 09:03 AM

I also found a hybrid variety here in Germany named Black Forest F1.

Ami

Anthony_Toronto March 2, 2014 09:50 AM

Thanks for the digging all! One thing that I've seen on every version found on the internet is either trailing vines that branch out more than the one my neigbour had, and those thick hollow stalks on leaves that are typically seen on zuchinni plants, whereas my neighbour's plant had leaves with thin stalks that were more like cucumber plant, not at all like the ones pictured. The search continues...I'll be sure to update if I find the plant, and save seeds if it actually grows like I remember, as the seeds neigbour gave me the year after he first grew it (additional seeds obtained from his father) just turned out to be regular zucchini plants.

luigiwu March 2, 2014 09:58 AM

Anthony, I bought a packet of vining squash from Sample Seeds (remy) called "Light Green Korean." I have also been searching high and low for vining squash types... If you would like a couple I can send you some - pm me. And if you ever get seeds for a such a plant as you remembered your neighbor's to be, please share! :)
Photo from Remy's shop (click on link for an HUGE picture...)
[URL="http://www.sampleseeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/LightGreenKorean.jpg"]http://www.sampleseeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/LightGreenKorean.jpg[/URL]

[IMG]http://www.sampleseeds.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/LightGreenKorean-150x150.jpg[/IMG]

habitat_gardener March 2, 2014 01:47 PM

I grew a vining Korean summer squash from Kitazawa last year: Teot Bat Put. It's a hybrid roundish (aka avocado squash) C. moschata.
[url]https://www.kitazawaseed.com/seeds_summer_squash.html[/url]

Franchi Sementi has a zucchini called Zucchino Alberello di Sarzana ("little tree of Sarzana"). It's supposed to be a vine but I haven't grown it.
[url]http://www.growitalian.com/zucchini-albarello-of-sarzana/[/url]

Another alternative is to plant a vining winter squash and eat it in the immature stage (as a summer squash). Delicata has the "right" shape, and butternuts are close.

Anthony_Toronto March 2, 2014 05:40 PM

Hi all, just got in touch with neighbour, he thinks that he may get some seeds that vine this year, and if so he will give some too me. He remembered that the plant was a straigh line vine that climbed along a post, up a tree, across a gap, along the top of the fence, and trailed down my side of the fence, and was at least 20 feet long...but he also thinks that the ones that he is going to get this year are the really long type of zucchini, and that is not what he had from his dad 4 or 5 years back, so might be out of luck. Luigiwu I'll immediately plant whatever I get from him and see what they do, and if any turn out I'll let one zuke go to seed and save them and send them off...and I always love an excuse to get down to NYC so maybe next time I drive to the city I'll have to drop off a care package on my way down from Toronto! That, or mail...

And if I can figure out the PM function I may have to beg for a few of those seeds!

DeanRIowa March 2, 2014 09:22 PM

Not a zucchini type squash but I grow a vining squash called Tatume and when used young can be used as a zucchini and when mature it is good as a pumpkin pie squash.

Dean

habitat_gardener March 30, 2014 03:06 PM

Trailing Green Marrow from Sand Hill.

from this page:
[url]http://www.kerrcenter.com/publications/squash-report-2010.pdf[/url]

Zeedman March 30, 2014 03:41 PM

In the link above, note the Zucchino Rampicante (a.k.a.Tromboncino, Zucchetta Rampicante). Not a true zucchini, but a very elongated butternut relative that was bred for use as a summer squash. VERY vigorous vines, and a strong climber. It is also highly resistant to SVB, which is the reason I first started growing it. All the seeds are in the bulb at the end, so 90% of the very long squash is solid & seedless... making it great for freezing. I eat the bulb end fresh, and freeze the seedless portion.

You might also want to look into Costata Romanesca (or Romanesco). It is a trailing summer squash of outstanding quality. Haven't tried it personally, so don't know how well it climbs. Seeds are widely available, from High Mowing Seeds, Johnny's, and Fedco among others. (Fedco also carries Tromboncino.)

Tracydr March 30, 2014 05:12 PM

Costata Romenesco makes a huge, vining plant.

jmsieglaff April 1, 2014 09:11 AM

Johnny's description of Costata Romenesco sounds like bush habit--that's why I haven't tried it before:
[QUOTE][COLOR=#000000]This distinctive zucchini is medium gray-green, with pale green flecks and prominent ribs. Big, large-leafed bush with only about half the yield of hybrids, but much better flavor; clearly better textured, nutty, and delicious, raw or cooked. Also a good producer of heavy male blossom buds for cooking. Packet: 30 seeds.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

So will this plant send runners and climb?

Tracydr April 1, 2014 12:05 PM

Mine made a huge vining plant. I got seeds from BC.

Anthony_Toronto April 1, 2014 01:17 PM

Went out and did a rough measure of the trail of neighbour's plant...had one long runner, it was at least 25 feet from my measurements, with what appeared to be regular green zucchini (when small, and when one at the base got big), exactly the same as standard bush zucchini or the ones you see in the supermarket. Maybe it is lost now, and I didn't end up with any trailing varieties this year, but will try something next year.

Tracydr April 1, 2014 04:00 PM

Yes, it makes a huge plant but doesn't make quite as much zucchini as the hybrids. Flavor and texture are better. We had plenty of blossoms for recipes. I'm growing it again this year.

heyni1 February 10, 2016 04:53 PM

Any updates on this thread? Any success stories on vining zucchini? I too have been searching the internet for a summer squash that will grow up!
Thanks.

luigiwu April 9, 2016 05:47 PM

Heyni, ALittleSalt grew out the last Gialle Nostrale seeds I had - if you ask nicely, he might share with you :)

I'm still interested in vining summer squashes... I think I've come across some Anatolian types and there is one from the UK, trailing marrow... Next for me maybe...

Jeannine Anne April 10, 2016 11:22 PM

I grew a variety called Black Forest a few years ago which was quite definitely a vining one. It was a hybrid though and the seeds were very expensive, but it would seem it is what you are looking for. I got the seeds in the UK where it is called Black Forest Courgette if anyone wants to look it up.. oh and there is a winter squash with the same name but it was the courgette I grew.

XX Jeannine

Jeannine Anne April 14, 2016 03:40 PM

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I have just found this one in the Uk

AlittleSalt April 14, 2016 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=luigiwu;550172]Heyni, ALittleSalt grew out the last Gialle Nostrale seeds I had - if you ask nicely, he might share with you :)

I'm still interested in vining summer squashes... I think I've come across some Anatolian types and there is one from the UK, trailing marrow... Next for me maybe...[/QUOTE]

I just planted 11 Gialla Nostrale seeds about 30 minutes ago.
I still have 40-50 seeds that would like to find new homes :lol:

Jeannine Anne April 14, 2016 06:06 PM

Alittlesalt, may I please have a few of those seeds if you still have some spare after the original poster, I am going to get a friend in the UK to send the one above over and I have found new seeds of the Black Forest one that is on order as we speak which I can trade you for.. or something else if you prefer.I would be most grateful.. XX Jeannine

AlittleSalt April 14, 2016 06:16 PM

I will PM you Jeannine

Jeannine Anne April 15, 2016 03:28 AM

Just confirming I have the yellow on the way from the uk too now

peppero April 15, 2016 02:59 PM

[QUOTE=AlittleSalt;551614]I just planted 11 Gialla Nostrale seeds about 30 minutes ago.
I still have 40-50 seeds that would like to find new homes :lol:[/QUOTE]

I would be very interested in some of those seeds. Is there anything you need?.

Jon

AlittleSalt April 15, 2016 03:21 PM

PM sent.

There are 2 more bags of 15 seeds to offer. PM me.

aftermidnight April 18, 2016 02:35 AM

I'm also looking for a vining zucchini if anyone has a few seeds to share, I found some Table Dainty (marrow) but haven't been able to find anything else. As far as a trade goes I have quite a few bean varieties and a nice Croatian lettuce to share.

Annette

Jeannine Anne April 18, 2016 08:50 PM

Annette, my seeds are en route from the UK. I got the green ones, Black Forest from Plants of Distinction in the UK and the yellow one Shooting Star from a company who sells on e bay UK. I don't remember how many seeds there were in the yellow ones but the green ones were only 8 seeds to a packet and I have already shared with someone, if you look those sellers up you may be able to get them shipped over, if they are out of stock send me your address of I can I may be able to send you a couple.. I will let you know for sure when they get here and I know just how many I have.

I will go and find the name of the e bay seller for you.


I just checked and both sellers still have stock.

The e bay number is 371556257362 and the company name is Premier Seeds Direct, this is for the Shooting Star yellow one

Plants of Distinction have the green one Black Forest.(not on e bay)


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