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Grub August 25, 2006 04:14 AM

Aussie Pepper Update Thread
 
I have a spare front garden bed that faces the street. It's usually home to annuals as it forms part of my home's facade. The good news is that this year it will harbour hot and/or sweet peppers. What I really need to know is which look best, are showy, have some plant shape and might generally look good this summer?

Thanks in advance. I am posting my final lists of sown peppers here and will ammend that if there's a no-show or some other freak thing.

[b]HOT PEPPERS
[/b]1. Yellow Rocoto
2. C. Pube PI 585275
3. C.Pube PI 58274
4. Rocoto Red
5. Kogsolai
6. Golden Cayenne
7. C.Pube Dswarf Orange Manzana (c/ Chillichick)
8. Jamaican Hot Chocolate
9. Anaheim
10. Fish
11. Nu Mex Big Jim
12. Peruvian Purple
13. Safi
14. Red Fatalli
15. Variegata (presume this one looks good)
16. Hawaiian
17. Waialua

[b]SWEET PEPPERS
[/b]1. Golden Marcono
2. Cornodi Toro Red
3. Ariane (bell)
4. Jimmy Nardello
5. Sweet Red Marconi
6. Sweet Chocoloate (bell)
7. Chinese Giant (bell)
8. Bull Nose
9. Sweet Lipstick
10. Purple Beauty (bell)
11. Chervena Chuska
12. Pimento Red Ruffled
13. Red Cheese.

[b]SECOND SOWING
[/b](Mix of hot and sweet)

EDIT Note: Those in [i]ITALICS[/i] are a no show after 10 days.

1. Tam Jalapeno
2. Sonora
3. Garden Salsa Hybrid
4. Mariachi
[i]5. Habanero Congo Black[/i]
6. Kung Pao
7. Mulato Isleno Chile Pepper
8. Cherrapeno (C.annum)
[i]9. Ring of Fire[/i]
10. Aji Cachucha (C. chinense)
11. Aji Dulce (C. chinense)
[i]12. De Arbol [/i]
[i]13. Hot Portugal (C.annum) [/i]
14. Madame Jeanette (C. chinense)
15. Amazon Chile Roma
16. Marconi Red
17. Lipstick
18. Jimmy Nardello
Ends.

Glenn 50 August 25, 2006 08:01 AM

No Joe E Parker?
Never mind despite the omission you have Rocotos..the greatest hot pepper on earth,,,not that I'm biased..
Great list.

svalli August 25, 2006 07:44 PM

I have Peruvian Purples on front of the house. I grow these just for the looks. Because the peppers have thin walls and are full of seeds, I am not planning to harvest them.

All C. pubescens look good with their hairy leaves and purple flowers.

Grub September 26, 2006 06:38 AM

Thanks for your input.

Glenn,
If you read this where do I get Joe E Parker?

Now for the bad news. Those in [b]bold[/b] are the only ones that germinated after one month. So this is it. I have included the number of seedlings I have of each in brackets, too.

Still, some good ones in there :)


HOT PEPPERS
1. Yellow Rocoto

[i] I was told to grow as many C. Pube's/Rocotos as I can, so I will grew the three that germinated (in bold) in this list [/i]
[b]2. C. Pube PI 585275 (x3)[/b]
[b]3. C.Pube PI 58274 (x3)[/b]
4. Rocoto Red
5. Kogsolai
6. Golden Cayenne
[b]7. C.Pube Dwarf Orange Manzana (c/ Chillichick) (x2)[/b]
[b]8. Jamaican Hot Chocolate (x1)[/b]
[i]These shiny, habanero-type peppers are deep chocolate-brown when ripe and ribbed or wrinkled, resembling large dates or prunes. Fruits are 1-1/2 to 2 inches long and with an extremely hot Caribbean flavor that is strong and smoky. Those in the know say that Jamaican Hot Chocolate makes a great hot sauce. This strain originated from a pepper found in a market in Port Antonio, Jamaica. 85 days.[/i]
[b]9. Anaheim (x3)[/b]
[i]Also know as the "New Mexican Chile," this moderately pungent fruit is deep green, but turns red at full maturity. Very smooth peppers are 7-1/2 inches long and 2 inches wide and borne on tall, productive plants that offer good foliage cover for the fruit. Tobacco mosaic virus resistant. Excellent for canning, freezing or drying. 75 days.[/i]
[b]10. Fish (x1)[/b]
[i]Very unusual and ornamental pepper plant is variegated both on the foliage and the peppers themselves. Both leaves and fruit are striped with creamy white and green, with the peppers eventually turning orange-red. Very hot fruit, 1 to 2 in. long, was used to season fish and shellfish in the African-American communities around Baltimore and Philadelphia back in the 1930's and 1940's. Plants are attractive enough just to be used as ornamentals, but peppers are prized for use in cooking. 75 days.[/i]
[b]11. Nu Mex Big Jim (x2)[/b]
[i]NuMex Big Jim - #9522 (30 seeds) $2.05
The largest of New Mexican varieties, this pepper has pods up to 12 inches long that weigh as much as 4 ounces. Their size makes them a favorite for chiles rellenos. Medium hot pungency. As an advantage, plants are able to set fruit under hot, dry conditions. 80 days.[/i]
[b]12. Peruvian Purple (x6)[/b]
[i]plants grows to 18–24" and produces 1" x ˝" fruits. Striking, tall plant has purple, foliage and deep purple fruits that turn to red when mature. Produces stubby, upright fruits that are mildly hot. A beautiful ornamental that can be grown indoors as a house plant. Perennial in warmer climates.[/i]
[b]13. Safi (x3)[/b]
[i]This African Scotch Bonnet type is a real scorcher. Plants carry an abundance of two by three inch dented peppers that are green, eventually turning an appropriate bright red. Off the charts on the hotness meter.[/i]
[b]14. Red Fatalli (x2)[/b]
This is description for yellow f. [i]Fiery hot, wrinkled yellow peppers are related to habanero, and are at least as hot if not hotter. The searing heat has an excellent, citrus-like flavor that can be appreciated in the seconds before the heat sets in. Originally from Africa, these plants become 3 to 4 feet tall, maturing abundant crops of fruit earlier than plants of habanero. Peppers are 2 to 3 inches long with a wide top that tapers down to a point, and are shriveled all over. 80 days.[/i]
[b]15. Variegata (varied foliage looks good) (x3)[/b]
16. Hawaiian
17. Waialua

SWEET PEPPERS
1. Golden Marcono
2. Cornodi Toro Red
3. Ariane (bell)
4. Jimmy Nardello
5. Sweet Red Marconi
6. Sweet Chocoloate (bell)
7. Chinese Giant (bell)
8. Bull Nose
9. Sweet Lipstick
10. Purple Beauty (bell)
[b]11. Chervena Chuska (x4)[/b]
[i]The best performing pepper during the record-setting cold and wet summer of 2004 at Heritage Farm. Bulgarian heirloom, traditionally used for roasting but also a great sweet pepper. Flesh is bright-red and very sweet, almost candy-like. Tapered fruits that are 2" at the shoulder by 6" long, ripens from green to brown to bright red. 85 days from transplant. Heat Scale: Sweet...0-1-2-3-4-5...Hot.[/i]
[b]12. Pimento Red Ruffled (x4)[/b]
[i]sweet; Cheese/Tomato-Shaped Type; 1.5 to 2 inches long by 3 to 3.5 inches wide; very thick flesh; matures from green to red; pendant pods; green leaves; 18 to 24 inches tall; Mid Season; Uses: Pimento, Small Stuffing; fruits have scalloped edges; C.annuum. [/i]
[b]13. Red Cheese (x2)[/b]
[i]80 days. Candy-sweet, round, flat, 3", pimento-type peppers that have thick, red flesh, great for stuffing or fresh eating. So good, they are almost addictive. Very productive plants. Once used to color cheese.[/i]

Ends.

Worth1 September 26, 2006 11:23 AM

Hi grub I saw your post and thought I would chime in.
I think that the ones that look the best are the peppers that the fruit have an upright growth habit.
The list below is for hot peppers that I am going to pick through, (well maybe not) LOL and grow along the front of my yard and along the side by the drive way.
I saw a picture of a university that had planted some of these out in front of the buildings in place of flowers, it looked just grand.
I got this list from TGS who as you know is listed on this forum.
They have pictures of them as well.
I hope this helps.

Bolivian Rainbow
Bulgarian Carrot
Chilly Chili Hybrid
Filus Blue
Little Elf
Marbles
Medusa
NuMex Centennial
NuMex Sunburst
NuMex Sunflare
NuMex Twilight
Poinsettia
Pretty Purple Pepper
Riot
Tabasco
Thai Hot

Later,
Worth

Grub October 12, 2006 12:17 AM

Thanks Worth.

Purple goes well with our house so I separated all the Peruvian Purple seedlings (six) and the Variegata seedings (3 or 4), plus I might add a Fish pepper to the front bed.

I'll endeavour to post a pic. There might be a few roses trying to poke their noses out of the devillish display, but I think it will work well.

Let's compare notes.

PaulF October 12, 2006 09:37 AM

Thanks for the descriptions; I am just getting into peppers and all these reccomendations are just what I need. Keep up the good work.

Grub November 7, 2006 05:12 PM

I don't know what came over me but I sowed another bunch to add to my pepper list at the top of this thread.

I am going to edit that list for my future reference.

After three days #3 is showing in the second sowing below. I will ammend this list if there is a no-show or two.

Peppers are go.

[b]Second Chilli Sowing
[/b]
1. Tam Jalapeno
2. Sonora
3. Garden Salsa Hybrid
4. Mariachi
5. Habanero Congo Black
6. Kung Pao
7. Mulato Isleno Chile Pepper
8. Cherrapeno (C.annum)
9. Ring of Fire
10. Aji Cachucha (C. chinense)
11. Aji Dulce (C. chinense)
12. De Arbol
13. Hot Portugal (C.annum)
14. Madame Jeanette (C. chinense)
15. Amazon Chile Roma
16. Marconi Red
17. Lipstick
18. Jimmy Nardello

Tania November 7, 2006 11:07 PM

Grub,

your post is truly inspiring - I got a serious urge to go and plant some peppers myself - took me several minutes to resist (and I know I wouldn't have been able to resist the temptation if I didn't know I'd have to go to India in January, these darn business trips... :D )

Great list! I think now I will not be able to resist a temptation to buy some new pepper seeds... :cry:

Mantis November 10, 2006 04:29 AM

You are a confirmed pepper nutcase. Mantis

Earl November 10, 2006 09:00 PM

So, once you get them all grown, and they're all sitting there red-hell-fire-looking and ready to burn you from a to a whatcha gonna do. LOL.

mdvpc November 10, 2006 09:17 PM

Earl-Hope he has the North American/Mexican remedy for it! As my wife says (who is from Mexico) Me Chile!

Grub November 11, 2006 06:38 AM

I'm gonna sit on an inflated tyre tube and just let them burn.

Burn, baby, burn.

mdvpc November 11, 2006 08:29 AM

Grub-If you are that into chile, I should send you some of my mother-in-law's chile pequin. It grows wild in her backyard, is very small and is very hot. Also very flavorable.

I live about 60 minutes, from Hatch, New Mexico, the green chile capital of the world and 40 minutes from the university in Las Cruces where a lot of green chile was researched. I see you don't have Joe Parker.

"Developed by the NMSU in honor of Mr Joe E. Parker of Las Cruces, New Mexico, a 1950 graduate of NMSU's College of Agriculture and Home Economics. Parker evaluated this specific selection. This cultivar is an improved version of the 'New Mexico 6-4', the standard chile cultivar for southern New Mexico. The plants are medium tall and very productive producing 15-20cm long peppers which ripen from bright green through mahogany to red in approx 80 days.It has thicker walls, more flesh and longer peppers than the original. This pepper is excellent for roasting, stuffing or chopping for a variety of dishes and is commonly used in New Mexico to make the dried pepper wreaths. Mild pungency 1000 SHU"

Pm me if you want Joe Parker, and I will find some seed, which will be easy, and send them to you. Let me know if you want seed from my mother-in-law of her chile pequin.

cdntomato November 11, 2006 10:56 AM

Great pepper news, Grub. Recognized a 'few' on your list. :lol: Fess up that some of those [i]chinense[/i] are non-incendiary.

Jennifer, grinning widely and expecting culinary reports (pretty please)

Oh, and does Mrs Grub know that the 'sting' of the incendiary peppers as well as curry transfers through breast milk? Pros and cons to that....

Grub November 11, 2006 10:24 PM

You are right, Jen.

There are plenty of mild ones in this lot. I'm really keen to pickle, as I eat a heap of pickled chillies, and dry and grind, plus make some chilli sauce, and more.

Micheal,

No idea why I don't ahve Joe Parker as I'm pretty sure Glenn from New Zealand also recommended this one. SO thanks for your offer. Very kind. But for now I think I will try and make the most of what I've got and put Joe Parker down for next year :)

Thanks.

mdvpc November 12, 2006 11:12 AM

Grub-no problem. Let me know next year if you want to try them.

Grub November 14, 2006 06:09 AM

The second lot are coming up from the mix in the trays on the heated bathroom floor. Good show.

I tried dried Naga Dorset powder from a Villian tonight, posted from the USA, about 1/4 teaspoon on my Thai Fried Rice, and it BLEW my brains and lips.

I think I'm addicted already :)

Grub November 15, 2006 04:43 AM

Thanks Jen,

You're a gem.

Didn't know about the breastmilk thing but I'm thinking Thai Boob Curry.

Okay, okay. Not a good thought.

But I'll be sure to let Mrs Grub know about the link. She's pretty controlled on the chilli intake, thou'.

Really, I'm the nutter ;)

Spatzbear November 15, 2006 09:08 PM

Hmmm.. is Joe Parker readily available in Australia? I couldn't find a source, but that doesn't really mean much.
Does anyone know? It sounds lovely.
Maybe Grub, if you get some, could you send a seed or two my way?
(I can't believe I'm actually asking for more chilli seeds.)

mdvpc November 15, 2006 11:57 PM

Spatz-taken care of-I emailed Grub about this right now. Just happens I have some 04 seed of Joe E Parker and Espanola Improved (another popular green chile in this area). Seed will go out no later than Monday.

Spatzbear November 16, 2006 12:13 AM

Wow, fantastic, Michael! :) That's so kind of you.
I'm sure we'll find something interesting one day for you. :)

Grub November 16, 2006 06:35 AM

Thanks Michael.
I can't wait to give it a try.
Cheers, GRUB.

timcunningham November 16, 2006 07:02 AM

Grub,

I hope the Jimmy Nardello's come up for you, they really are a fantastic stir-fry pepper. Skin is thin and not bitter, they look like a long cayenne pepper, but are as sweet as candy. My one year old daughter likes chewing on them as we browse the garden together.

If you like hot purple peppers take a look at Black Hungarian, very onamental, good heat. If you wait they go from dark purple / black to deep red.

[img]http://seedsavers.org/images/233.jpg[/img] Black Hungarian from seedsavers.org

[img]http://seedsavers.org/images/239.jpg[/img] Jimmy Nardello from seedsavers.org

mdvpc November 16, 2006 08:13 AM

Grub and Spatz, no problem. Tim-beautiful photos of Jimmy and BH-I have grown BH and I liked it-not to hot, but a nice flavor. Jimmy's I havent grown.

Mantis November 16, 2006 06:34 PM

Here are my first fruit. Mariachi Hybrid
[img]http://users.netconnect.com.au/~myrna/Nov16-06%20MariachiHyb.jpg[/img]

Grub November 16, 2006 09:36 PM

They look great Mantis.

I have this one courtesy of you in my second sowing and poking out of the mix.

Nice to see some peppers at your digs too.

Grub November 16, 2006 10:12 PM

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Okay, I cheated, as this was a storebought seedling for Long Sweet Yellow, an OP wax all the same. But maybe I'll have some with Kimberly and basil in pasta soonish.

Spatzbear November 16, 2006 11:22 PM

How does Black Hungarian differ from Peruvian Purple?

mdvpc November 16, 2006 11:31 PM

Spatz-for me Black Hungarian was much bigger and not as hot. I dont know what other people's experience is.


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