A glossary of commonly used tomato culture abbreviations
[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][COLOR=green]After reading Thawley's post about PL and RL, I figured it wouldn't hurt to have a glossary for the folks who are new to our abbreviated language. I will get the ball rolling. Feel free to add some tomato and gardening terms that appear here on the forum. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][COLOR=#008000]DTM - days to maturity - This is the number that you see on seed packs indicating how long (on average) it takes from the time you transplant into the garden until you have ripe fruit. I suppose it is one way of comparing the earliness or lateness of varieties but I have found it pretty much meaningless. I have had tomatoes with a DTM of 85 days come in at 50 and vice versa. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Tahoma][SIZE=4][COLOR=#008000]mater[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] |
I had someone here help compile a list of all of the abbreviations/acronyms that we use around here...when I recently resychronized the storage forum here (where I put it to work on further) I accidentally deleted it. :(
I [I]think [/I]I also have it tucked away in an email somewhere...I promise I will look for it and post it ASAP, if I find it. ;) |
A few more unknowns:
• Dwarf (is this just another name for determatate?) • F1, F2, F3??? More for the list: • BER: Blossom End Rot • Florida weave: trellising method • SSE: Seed Savers Exchange • EB's:Earthboxes • MG: Miracle-Gro® |
OP : open pollinated
CP : cross pollinated ... DTM from date of transplant to maturity depends on the state of transplanting, I see tomato-lovers transplants tiny seedlings upto plants bearing flowers already so that will influence the time to mature as well... (IN)DET erminate PL : potatoleaf |
Here's a few (I may add more later):
LGS - Lime Green Salad NBD - New Big Dwarf BWS (or BW Sud) - Brandywine, Sudduth BW - Brandywine CP (or ChP) - Cherokee Purple CC (or ChC) - Cherokee Chocolate CG (or ChG) - Cherokee Green RL - regular leaf GMGPL (or GMG) - Grub's Mystery Green PL |
TV = Tomatoville
:mrgreen: dcarch |
[COLOR=green]SOL - when your garden is attacked by blister beetles and hornworms and you have a major hailstorm all in the same day.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=green][/COLOR] [COLOR=green]mater[/COLOR] |
F1, F2, F3 - refers to the generation of crossed seeds in the process of stabilizing, it can take many generations (7+) to fully stabilize a cross or hybrid
RL- regular leaf All dwarfs are determinate, but not all determinates are dwarfs BTW - What would you call it when a F2 or F3 looks like it wants to be a PL, but still has some serrations? laurel-tx |
BTD = Berkeley Tie Dye
ARGG = Aunt Ruby's German Green SOTW = Stump of the World TGSC = Tomato Grower's Supply Co. (I've also seen this one listed as TGS) TT = Totally Tomatoes I'm sure I'll think of more later... |
DIY EB = Do-it-yourself Earthbox(R). Self-watering plant containers which are homemade versions of the commercial version sold as Earthboxes(R). There is a long thread in the Growing in Containers forum on how to make these.
NAR = Neve's Azorean Red MP = Marianna's Peace |
WMT/SF
Worths mystery tomato small fruited.:? Worth |
Mischka--
Here it is... AGG Aunt Gertie's Gold AKA Also Known As ARJR Andrew Rahart's Jumbo Red ARGG Aunt Ruby's German Green ASAP As Soon As Possible BB Bloody Butcher, BrandyBoy BBH Brad's Black Heart BCW Box Car Willie BER Blossom End Rot BFT Black From Tula BLT AKA RTS (Ruined Tomato Sandwich) BT Bacillus thuringiensis BTD Berkely Tie Dye BTW By The Way BW Brandywine CC Cherokee Chocolate ChChoc Cherokee Chocolate CG Cherokee Green ChGreen - Cherokee Green CP Cherokee Purple ChPur - Cherokee Purple CRM Concrete Reinforcing Mesh same as CRW CRW Concrete Reinforcing Wire same as CRM Det Determinate DH Dear Husband DTM Days To Maturity DW Dear Wife EF Earl's Faux EPA Environmental Protection Agency EPB Eva Purple Ball FWIW For What Its Worth GA Gregori's Altai GDC - Golden Dwarf Champion GG Green Giant GH GreenHouse GJ - German Johnson GMG Grub's Mystery Green GMO Genetically Modified Organism GRS German Red Strawberry GW Garden Web IMHO In My Humble Opinion IMO In My Opinion Indet Indeterminate Ind Indeterminate JF Jaune Flammee KB Kellogg's Breakfast KBX Kellogg's Breakfast, potato leaf KHP Kalman's Hungarian Pink LC Lucky Cross Lucky X - Lucky Cross LL - Little Lucky LGS Lime Green Salad LOL Laugh Out Loud LPB Large Pink Bulgarian LYH Lillian's Yellow Heirloom MG Miracle-Gro ML Mortgage Lifter MP Marianna's Peace NAR Neves Azorean Red NBD New Big Dwarf NCP Natural Cross-Pollination NPK Nitrogen, Phosphorus, Potassium NSP Natural Self-pollination OP Open Pollinated OTOH On The Other Hand OTV Off The Vine PL Potato Leaf PM Private Message PNW Pacific North West PPP Pink Ping Pong RL Regular Leaf ROFLMAO Rolling On the Floor Laughing My A** Off SASE Self Addressed Stamped Envelope SESE Southern Exposure Seed Exchange SFG Square Foot Gardening SFT Silvery Fir Tree SH Southern Hemisphere SHP Sand Hill Preservation SO Significant Other SOW Stump Of the World SSE Seed Saver's Exchange TGS(C) Tomato Grower's Supply Company TMV Tobacco Mosaic Virus TSWV Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus TT Totally Tomatoes TYVM Thank You Very Much TYW Tom's Yellow Wonder WOW Wall O' Water Please edit and relocate at will:D Kurt edited - I added a few! Craig |
NICE! Thanks for the post.
I've seen a variation on "DW Dear Wife"... SWMBO: She Who Must Be Obeyed Thawley |
Now we're cookin'!
Thanks! |
a few more...
AFAIK as far as I know BSF black soldier fly (its beneficial larvae are common in summer compost) GE genetically engineered GW GardenWeb IIRC if I recall correctly IRL in real life SASBE self-addressed stamped bubble envelope (to prevent seeds from being mangled by post office; alternative is to make the envelope 1/4 inch thick or more and pay extra 20 cents postage for hand canceling) |
If we can keep this thread running with additional abbreviations, I will consolidate them into page in the FAQ section of the forum... please keep 'em coming folks! ;)
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Hard to just pull the abbreviations out of the hat.
TTC --Texas Tomato Cage (sp) --spelling issues...may or may not be spelled right TT---Tomato Tone fertilizer SWC --self watering container IOW -- in other words FWIW -- for what it's worth FYI -- for your information MG --Miracle Gro AKA the "blue stuff" AKA --also known as |
BWPS - Big White Pink Stripes (seems to be marketed by the accronym alone)
BER - Blossom End Rot TMV - Tobacco Mosaic Virus TSWV - Tomato Spotted Wilt Virus And I have seen one for Semi-Determinant, but unsure what is correct acronym. Thanks so much, this will be useful :-) kd |
[quote]All dwarfs are determinate, ...[/quote]'Fraid not. Dwarfs may be determinate or indeterminate. Dwarfism has to do with internode length, which doesn't seem at all related to flowering habit, the determinant of whether a variety is determinate or indeterminate, as the dwarf project is showing with its numerous indeterminate varieties.
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abbreviations
Being fairly new here I would see all these abbreviations and wonder what they stood for. I ran accross this thread and thought it was very useful. Last post was in Jan.2010 |
LMAO
Was LMAO mentioned = laughing my a-- off.
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I think the dwarf situation is worth discussing a bit more. ALL dwarfs are "shorter" than indeterminate varieties, and all ALL dwarfs are very distinct in growth habit - very stocky, thick central stem, crinkly, dark green foliage. When we refer to indeterminate and determinate dwarfs, it is more around how they shoot out the blossom clusters, and height potential. Indeterminate dwarfs - such as Summertime Green, Summertime Gold (all of the Sneezy family), will top out at 4 feet or maybe a bit more by the end of the growing season (compare to a true indeterminate, which can go 8-12 plus feet, if you stake). They tend to have the blossom clusters off the main central stem, within the foliage radius of the plant (you don't typically see indeterminate dwarfs shooting blossom clusters beyond the foliage). Determinate dwarfs, which seem to be a characteristic of the Sleepy family - Rosella Crimson, Rosella Purple as examples - and the Grumpy family - are "rounder" looking plants - more branching, less rapid upward growth, topping out at 3 feet or so. These are the ones that can pop enormous blossom clusters out the top of the plants. But all Dwarfs, like indeterminate varieties, flower and fruit all year, until killed by frost.
It really isn't all that clear cut - there are selections that seem to be in between the two above. But it really isn't important, since all dwarfs - both determinate and indeterminate - are easily caged and grown on short stakes..... |
GWR - Green When Ripe
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[B]CSA[/B] - [I]community supported agriculture[/I], also known as "subscription farming."
You purchase a subscription from a local farmer, just like you would do for a subscription to a weekly newspaper or magazine. The difference is that you receive fresh, locally grown or raised fruit and/or vegetables. CSA subscribers pay upfront for the season of produce (average is $400-$600). This early bulk payment enables the local farmer to plan for the season, purchase new seed, make equipment repairs and more. Some farmers also offer CSA subscriptions for farm-fresh eggs, and/or meats. |
As a newbie, I think this is a great idea, but can't help wondering why the
poster can't just peck out the name of a mater like Brandywine instead of having an abbreviation of BW. Yes, often I can figure them out, but the time it takes me to do that is longer than the time it would have taken the author to type the name for the benefit of all newbies and some oldtimers.:x |
I think with brandywine it's because both it's a popular type, and there are multiple variations. With something like Potato Leaf/Regular Leaf - PL/RL you might be discussing a whole list of tomatoes, and have to type the long way dozens of times in a post of the list. Also, there's the spelling to consider, you can probably figure it out if you need to type it out, but you might have to stop typing and think about it.
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Thats a load of BS!!!!!
Sorry i had to do this |
RTFM - read the fine manual
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[quote=FILMNET;206145]Thats a load of BS!!!!!
Sorry i had to do this[/quote] No, you didn't have to do it. I was going to edit your post but decided to leave it for now and just to say that using such an abbreviation that's known to all doesn't stand for the variety Big Sungold. So please do refrain yourself in the future.:) Alpine, everyone starts out as a newbie at some point and thre are abbreviations that one learns as one learns more and more about tomato varieties. If you don't understand some of the abbreviations then just ask the person posting what one stands for if you don't see it in the posts above. There will never be a comprehensive list of tomato variety abbreviations for the simple fact that there upwards of 10-12,000 varieties in circulation. Add to that that many Tville members who are from countries where the spellings of some varieties are truly hard to remember without looking them up each time you want to fully name a variety. And many US folks grow those same varieties. And there are varieties not just from Europe and other countries, but tons of them from the US that also are hard to spell. If you look at the thread on grow lists here in the GEneral Discussion Forum you'll see that almost to a person variety names are spelled out in full. That's for the Grow lists, but in regular posts many use abbreviations and I do myself. So, again, if you see an abbreviation for a variety that you don't know, just ask the person right in that thread what it stands for b'c if you PM the person about it that means that perhaps others who didn't know what it stood for and were too shy, or whatever to ask, won't know either. Hope that helps. |
The proper way to use any acronym such as "BW" is to use it [U]only[/U] after it was first spelled out: Brandywine. Then it can be subsequently referred to as BW as most all readers will be able to figure out what it means, newbie or not. To begin an initial post full of abbreviations or acronyms in any forum is just rude (ask Miss Manners).;-)
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