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Balr14 May 18, 2022 10:56 AM

Earthboxes for tomatoes
 
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I haven't posted in a number of years. I moved to a different house and had to start my veggie garden over. Growing conditions and container location are not nearly as good as they were at the old house. So, it took a few years to figure out what works best.

Awhile back, somebody asked me about growing tomatoes in Earthboxes. I apologize for not responding... I just saw the message now.

Anyway, here's what I know after about 15 years of growing tomatoes in Earthboxes:

1. They are expensive ($35) but they are worth it. They last a long time. Mine are between 10 - 20 years old and show no signs of damage. I have tried other plastic containers and they get brittle and fall apart in 2 - 3 years.

2. You can grow any kind of tomato in an Earthbox and get outstanding results. The biggest issue you will have is supporting the plants. I typically grow about 60% heirlooms. But I have a variety of cherry, medium sized and large tomatoes in my containers.

3. You can grow 2 or 3 tomatoe plants in one Earthbox container. Putting 2 in an Earthbox requires no special preparation or planning. For 3, you need to plan a little. You don't want 3 high yield plants in one container. One high yield plant and two lower yield plants works pretty well.

4. Tomato plant roots will reach the water reservoir pretty quickly. I put a cap full of Miracle grow in the water every two weeks. During the most active growing period, you will need to refill the container every day.

5. Once the plants are established, if there isn't as much room in the container as they would like, they will grow vertically... a lot!

That's it for now. Feel free to comment or ask questions. Here's a picture taken in June.

ScottinAtlanta May 18, 2022 06:08 PM

THanks! Do you add the granular Miracle Grow, or the blue water soluble version?

Balr14 May 18, 2022 07:51 PM

I add a cap full of the liquid, right out of the bottle, to the reservoir every two weeks. The reservoir contains 2.5 - 3 gallons of water, so that dilutes it nicely. Because the tomatoes grow extremely fast with this setup, they need a little extra calcium to prevent blossom end rot. So, I add lime pellets to the soil.

ScottinAtlanta May 19, 2022 09:06 AM

I am not familiar with liquid Miracle grow - can you post a link? Best, Scott

Balr14 May 19, 2022 11:54 AM

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Here you go -

[url]https://www.amazon.com/Miracle-Gro-LiquaFeed-Tomato-Vegetables-Fertilizer/dp/B006MVLAKK/ref=sr_1_12?crid=Z9M3RI45BLV7&keywords=miracle%2Bgrow%2Bplant%2Bfood%2Bfor%2Bvegetables&qid=1652975581&s=lawn-garden&sprefix=miracle%2Bgrow%2Bplant%2Bfood%2B%2Clawngarden%2C127&sr=1-12&th=1[/url]

Previous pictures were from the old house with a great place to put containers. Here's the current setup. Not as good as the old one, but still good for more than normal yields.

ScottinAtlanta May 19, 2022 12:43 PM

Thanks! You find that 12-4-8 works well for the whole season?

Balr14 May 19, 2022 02:11 PM

[QUOTE=ScottinAtlanta;768032]Thanks! You find that 12-4-8 works well for the whole season?[/QUOTE]

It works just fine. This is Wisconsin. The season is only about 3 months long... June through August. If I get any actual growing weather in May, it's a bonus. Some plants are still going strong in September, but by then, I have all the tomatoes I can possibly use and can't give more away to anyone. So I don't do anything to encourage the plants. We still have tomato sauce from last years tomatoes.

Last year I planted 19 tomato plants, (8 cherries and 6 medium and 5 large, mostly heirloom). This year I am doing 13 plants with only 4 cherry varieties and few new large varieties.

PaulF May 19, 2022 03:42 PM

For container gardening I have switched from higher N plant food to the "bloom booster" formula ( like 8-45-12, each brand has its own ratio it seems). The more and stronger blossoms the better the flowers in flower boxes and more production in vegetables. No real proof but it seems to work here.

Balr14 May 19, 2022 04:14 PM

[QUOTE=PaulF;768035]For container gardening I have switched from higher N plant food to the "bloom booster" formula ( like 8-45-12, each brand has its own ratio it seems). The more and stronger blossoms the better the flowers in flower boxes and more production in vegetables. No real proof but it seems to work here.[/QUOTE]

I have tried other liquid plant foods including the "bloom booster" formula. Also, feeding weekly, instead of every two weeks does wonders. You are right, it does produce a lot. I have tried to slow down plant growth and produce less in the last few years. I just can't use any more unless I buy another freezer. I still get more production than you get from normal gardens.

ScottinAtlanta May 19, 2022 10:39 PM

Thanks. We have a 9 month season here - but I will the liquid version a try.

ddsack May 20, 2022 09:27 AM

Thanks for the pictures, Balr14, I do like your idea of raising the containers up onto the cement blocks for ease of tending in the early season. Looks like you've already covered the problem of high vines with the surrounding frames for support. What are you growing in the center containers covered with screening? Would love to see pictures again later in the season!

Balr14 May 20, 2022 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=ddsack;768041]Thanks for the pictures, Balr14, I do like your idea of raising the containers up onto the cement blocks for ease of tending in the early season. Looks like you've already covered the problem of high vines with the surrounding frames for support. What are you growing in the center containers covered with screening? Would love to see pictures again later in the season![/QUOTE]

The covered containers have lettuce in them. We have chipmunks that like to dig in my containers. Once my plants are well established, they don't bother them. Coffee grounds tend to discourage the little pests after awhile. But, they raise hell with newly planted stuff. I'll remove the screening in another week or two.

The frames you see are actually the shipping containers that screened in gazebo (or whatever you call it) came in. I had this metal framing left over and couldn't figure out what to do with it. Then I got the bright idea to use it to support my plants. It works great!

Shrinkrap June 4, 2022 04:31 AM

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Well done! Your plants look amazing! I've never tried full sized indeterminate tomatoes.

Here's mine, almost all Dwarf Tomato Project. I use tomato tone, and often supplement with chemical fertilizers from

kurt June 5, 2022 08:42 AM

Some info from the archives.
 
There are some massive Earthbox gardens here in Florida.Check ginger2778.

[url]http://tomatoville.com/showthread.php?t=48908&highlight=Earthbox[/url]

Balr14 June 11, 2022 06:15 PM

[QUOTE=Shrinkrap;768183]Well done! Your plants look amazing! I've never tried full sized indeterminate tomatoes.

Here's mine, almost all Dwarf Tomato Project. I use tomato tone, and often supplement with chemical fertilizers from[/QUOTE]

Very nice! That's a lot of tomatoes!

Balr14 June 11, 2022 06:39 PM

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Here's how things look today. We have had generally cold weather with a fair amount of rain, so the plants aren't growing so well. I had to replace two plants in the middle. They were doing poorly and showing signs of disease. They were from a usually reliable source that has gotten worse in recent years.

MrsJustice June 11, 2022 10:20 PM

[QUOTE=Balr14;768023]I haven't posted in a number of years. I moved to a different house and had to start my veggie garden over. Growing conditions and container location are not nearly as good as they were at the old house. So, it took a few years to figure out what works best.

Awhile back, somebody asked me about growing tomatoes in Earthboxes. I apologize for not responding... I just saw the message now.

Anyway, here's what I know after about 15 years of growing tomatoes in Earthboxes:

1. They are expensive ($35) but they are worth it. They last a long time. Mine are between 10 - 20 years old and show no signs of damage. I have tried other plastic containers and they get brittle and fall apart in 2 - 3 years.

2. You can grow any kind of tomato in an Earthbox and get outstanding results. The biggest issue you will have is supporting the plants. I typically grow about 60% heirlooms. But I have a variety of cherry, medium sized and large tomatoes in my containers.

3. You can grow 2 or 3 tomatoe plants in one Earthbox container. Putting 2 in an Earthbox requires no special preparation or planning. For 3, you need to plan a little. You don't want 3 high yield plants in one container. One high yield plant and two lower yield plants works pretty well.

4. Tomato plant roots will reach the water reservoir pretty quickly. I put a cap full of Miracle grow in the water every two weeks. During the most active growing period, you will need to refill the container every day.

5. Once the plants are established, if there isn't as much room in the container as they would like, they will grow vertically... a lot!

That's it for now. Feel free to comment or ask questions. Here's a picture taken in June.[/QUOTE]

I am impressed, especially since I tried to grow tomatoes in earthboxes that did not go well for me last winter. I Used natural dirt from my own farm. Maybe that was my problem.

Balr14 July 16, 2022 06:24 PM

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What a year this has been for growing! After replacing 2 plants that were diseased, we had high winds and hail that destroyed all of my tomatoes on this side of my "garden" except those on each end and the right half of the plant that was second from the end on the right side. Plants on the opposite side of my garden were OK, so I lucked out there.

This was in the middle of June, so I was in a panic to find replacement plants. The garden center where I get my good plants had some leftover tomato plants they had not thrown out yet. But, they were a mess. There was like a hundred plants all clumped together, very stringy and scraggly looking and had not been watered in weeks. I dug through the mess and found about a dozen plants that looked like they were still half alive and paid $2.00 for the lot of them and took them home.

After looking them over and cleaning them up and pruning them, I found 6 that looked like they might survive and actually produce fruit. I stuck them all in the space I had in the left and middle container. I figured I'd see which ones do the best and toss the others.

Well, I got busy with other projects and didn't get a chance to play with the tomato plants again. So, here it is now...

ddsack July 16, 2022 10:40 PM

Nice! It looks like your reject plants have taken off! Still a lot of growing time left, so I do hope that you don't get any more stormy weather set backs. I see some near ripe cherries?

Shrinkrap July 21, 2022 03:53 PM

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They look great! You fixed them up good!

It occurs to me that except for my first picture, my plants and fruit include some from previous years. I have none ripe yet this year, but here they are, July 2022. Some yellow leaves, Witty bits, and frass that I haven't been able to track back. Sigh.

Oh well. It's all part of the journey. Carry on!

Balr14 July 23, 2022 12:38 PM

[QUOTE=ddsack;768544]Nice! It looks like your reject plants have taken off! Still a lot of growing time left, so I do hope that you don't get any more stormy weather set backs. I see some near ripe cherries?[/QUOTE]

I've been picking several kinds of cherries for two weeks already. Very early. Quite odd.

Balr14 July 23, 2022 12:55 PM

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[QUOTE=Shrinkrap;768601]They look great! You fixed them up good!

It occurs to me that except for my first picture, my plants and fruit include some from previous years. I have none ripe yet this year, but here they are, July 2022. Some yellow leaves, Witty bits, and frass that I haven't been able to track back. Sigh.

Oh well. It's all part of the journey. Carry on![/QUOTE]

It sure is! The two diseased plants I removed from my garden area, were really looking bad, leaves curled and dry, buds dropping off or just dying. But they were the only black tomatoes I had this year, so I didn't want to just toss them out. So, I stuck them in a clean container and put them off to the side on my deck. I kept pruning bad growth off of them, to see if they would survive. Here they are today, 6' tall. Who knows?

hl2601 July 25, 2022 11:09 AM

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Love seeing everyone's earth box set up pics! Also fun too to see what others do to contain the plants. My system is a little different. I always put two larger tomatoes in each box. I have the staking systems on my earthboxes, but have found the trellising net to be pretty useless. Instead I insert a 6' stake beside each plant that is tied to the top of the staking system. I clip and "tidy" the tomatoes up vertically keeping 2-3 growth stems. So far this has worked well. Here are some pics from earlier in the season. I think I have about 20 or so boxes going in 2 separate areas.

Balr14 July 29, 2022 11:07 PM

Nice setup. You put a lot more effort into it than I do. I'm pretty sure I'm going to stick to 2 plants per EarthBox next year and spread them out more.

Barb_FL July 30, 2022 10:15 AM

Bair14 - I can't believe how well those plants recooperated. You have the magic touch for sure.

Hi2601 - My season is done (last plants pulled end of June), but I will post pictures of some of my EB.

Barb_FL July 30, 2022 10:32 AM

My setup - I have 40EB but this past season only used 10 for growing tomatoes, and grew broccoli, cauliflower, onions, and lettuce in the others. I also have 7 EB Jrs that are strictly for lettuce growing.

My season goes from Sept 1 - June 30 with Sept 1 just starting seeds.

I typically use a lot more EB for tomatoes, but this past year I didn't - it gets really cold some January nights and I found the tomato plants growing in Root Pouches can really handle the cold / heat better.

For ALL my tomato plants, I have to attach the cage to a T-Post to keep them from blowing over. I have tons of wind; it's not unusual to have days of 30-35 MPH sustained over several days.

For most of the growing season, I cover the outside of the EBs so the intense sun does not make the mix and reservoir too warm. This makes everything look really crappy but it really does work. I use the empty bags of Promix which really looks bad and also cut green indoor / outdoor carpet with the underneath part exposed to the sun.

When the season is over, I empty all my EB and Rootpouch (Fabric grow bags), and solarize all the mix and pressure wash everything.

My main season (winter) is during the least # of daylight hours.

Barb_FL July 30, 2022 10:57 AM

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MrsJustice July 30, 2022 02:14 PM

O K I might try Boxes next year in the Summertime. But I am still aging to try again in my Greenhouse in the Winter Times.

Balr14 July 31, 2022 05:42 PM

[QUOTE=Barb_FL;768762]My setup - I have 40EB but this past season only used 10 for growing tomatoes, and grew broccoli, cauliflower, onions, and lettuce in the others. I also have 7 EB Jrs that are strictly for lettuce growing.

My season goes from Sept 1 - June 30 with Sept 1 just starting seeds.

I typically use a lot more EB for tomatoes, but this past year I didn't - it gets really cold some January nights and I found the tomato plants growing in Root Pouches can really handle the cold / heat better.

For ALL my tomato plants, I have to attach the cage to a T-Post to keep them from blowing over. I have tons of wind; it's not unusual to have days of 30-35 MPH sustained over several days.

For most of the growing season, I cover the outside of the EBs so the intense sun does not make the mix and reservoir too warm. This makes everything look really crappy but it really does work. I use the empty bags of Promix which really looks bad and also cut green indoor / outdoor carpet with the underneath part exposed to the sun.

When the season is over, I empty all my EB and Rootpouch (Fabric grow bags), and solarize all the mix and pressure wash everything.

My main season (winter) is during the least # of daylight hours.[/QUOTE]

I grow lots of peppers and herbs in my EBs. I don't have to worry about too much heat or sun. I tried carrots and cucumbers in an EB last year. That idea needs some work.

Balr14 August 23, 2022 02:25 PM

Growing season is about done and I have cut down most of my tomato plants. I still have about 50 large tomatoes hanging on the plants to ripen. I also have one white cherry tomato plant that refuses to stop producing. On the whole, it was a very good year. Despite wind and weather damage, I actually ended up with more tomatoes than I had the last several years.


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