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rutabagaboy July 12, 2009 10:04 PM

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[COLOR=black][B]Islander plant 2.2[/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]July 12[/COLOR]

[COLOR=black]Plant 1[/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black]Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.[/COLOR]

Plant 2
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Flower, no fruit

Plant 3
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Flower, no fruit

Plant 4
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There are no less than FIVE fruits in this photo ranging in color from chartreuse to purple (you have to look for the purple ones in the shadows south-west of center). This plant is almost twice as tall as any of the other seven. What is not to like about this plant? (Taste, I suppose, but we'll see.)
Plant 5
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Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.

Plant 6
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Chartreuse fruit with purple five-o'clock shadow.

Plant 7
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Craig's surprise package - not like any other sweet pepper you'll find. Craig wins his sucker bet as the fruit did change from yellow to lollipop purple. I like the contrast of purple fruit on green plants.

Plant 8
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Chartreuse fruit, no trace of purple yet.

hill60 July 14, 2009 11:56 PM

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Its been a while since my last update. At this point plants are all healthy and growing well.

Picture 1, 2, 3 Islander F4 plant 8.2 vial 08-31
Picture 3, 4, 5 Tawny Port F2 vial 06-13
Picture 7, 8 Chocolate Bell F3 vial 08-7

The Chocolate Bells are not as far along as the others but are still doing well.

Rutabagaboy's descriptions of Islander, chartreuse to lollipop purple fits.

I've bagged some blossoms on each plant for saving seeds. All the plants are loaded with with blossoms and fruit starting at different stages.

Do I leave all the blossoms on the plants or would there be any benefit to removing some of them.


Hill60

rutabagaboy July 15, 2009 12:06 AM

The fruit on plant 8 (see last photo in Post 61) developed some sun scald, which gave me the opportunity to snag an early bite. It was sweet, no hint of heat.

rutabagaboy July 26, 2009 02:38 AM

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[B]Islander plant 2.2[/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18

July 25, 2009

Even though I've covered the plants with screening to mitigate the sun's intensity, these plants seem rather succeptible to sun scald. All fruit on all plants except Plant 7 have fruit quickly progressing from chartreuse to lolli-pop purple to ???. Only Plant 3 is challenging Plant 4 for the altitude record. Plant 4 is also the most productive (not including Plant 7) so far. All plants are healthy.

Plant 7 has the structure and fruit shape of a hot pepper. It's fruit goes from yellow to lolli-pop purple to ??? The plant and its fruit is more pleasing to me than many of the Hots I've grown as part of that project. Fat conical fruit arising from purple tinged white flowers on a green plant - nice contrasts.

Plant 1: 13" tall
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Plant 2: 13" tall
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Plant 3: 17" tall
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Plant 4: 19" tall
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Plant 5: 12" tall
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Plant 6: 14" tall
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Plant 7: 13" tall
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Plant 8: 12" tall
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rutabagaboy July 26, 2009 02:51 AM

[SIZE=4][B]Islander[/B][/SIZE]

Second Season Status

[B]Islander 6.1 F4 Vial 08-26[/B]
Planted four seeds, none germinated, 0%, wipeout for 2009.

[B]Islander 6.2 F4 Vial 08-28[/B]
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.

[B]Islander 8.2 F4 Vial 08-31[/B]
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.

rutabagaboy August 9, 2009 02:43 PM

[B]Islander plant 2.2[/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18

[quote=nctomatoman;137107]I would like to stabilize one of each. Suze found the purple to yellow. They seem tricky to get stable - still seeing variation at the F4, so let's see how these all end up and we can decide which ones I would like samples of. Of course, anyone participating in this is welcome to keep large samples of whatever they like to grow going forward or to share with others. Key aim of this little project is to do something fun and interesting.[/quote]


August 9

Sometimes sun scald is a semi-good thing. At least, it hurries the rest of the fruit it has affected to turn ripe. In this instance the pepper (there wasn't much left of it that was untouched) turned a dark red. I was able to nibble a bit of the shoulders. It was a nice smooth sweet pepper.

nctomatoman August 9, 2009 02:56 PM

Yes, I've got a good amount of Sunscald on my fruit (small containers, dried out as well, deer hit some foliage). I think I've got riped or near ripes on all of my plants, but need to sort out my tomato menagerie before I can return to the hot (all have red fruit!) and sweet peppers. Argggh!

rutabagaboy August 10, 2009 11:50 AM

The eight plants grown from this batch of seed are planted in the ground and are well-watered via drip. The fruit of the seven sweet peppers is very prone to sun scald. I have a layer of translucent plastic and a layer of aluminum screening on the south side of these plants and they still get sun scald. The single inadvertent hot pepper cross is not affected in the least. (I took a small taste of that one the other day and its sweet parent did nothing to mitigate the pungency of the hot parent. I have a very low threshhold for hot peppers. In addition to the burning sensation, I get the hiccups. This tiny nibble set had me hiccupping up and down the garden paths - ugh! But it is a pretty plant.

rutabagaboy August 20, 2009 08:27 PM

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[B]Islander plant 2.2[/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18

August 19, 2009

All these peppers are planted in a community garden and all sweet peppers there that are not shaded by their leaves or by artificial means WILL get sun scald - guaranteed! However, each of these plants is protected from all direct sun with a layer of translucent plastic sheeting AND a layer of aluminum window screening (removed for the photos) and still the fruit gets sun scald.

Plant 1, notice withered part of fruit which is below a small patch of sun scald. Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
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Plant 2 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
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Plant 3 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
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Plant 4, every harvested fruit on this plant has been removed prior to full color because every one suffered from from sun scald. The progression of fruit color on the plant is chartreuse to lollipop purple to a mixture of purple, yellow and red to red. The purple fruit on the left in the last photo is the sun-scalded fruit from plant 1. This is the tallest of the bunch and was the first start ripening. Seed has been collected.
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Plant 5, this plant - at this point - seems undecided on its final color. Will it be red or gold?
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Plant 6, this plant appears to have chosen gold as its final color.
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Plant 7 (the hot cross)
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Plant 8 Fruit is purple and has not started to turn to its ripe color.
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rutabagaboy August 20, 2009 08:38 PM

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[SIZE=4][B]Islander[/B][/SIZE]

Second Season Status August 20, 2009

[B]Islander 6.1 F4 Vial 08-26[/B]
Planted four seeds, none germinated, 0%, wipeout for 2009.

[B]Islander 6.2 F4 Vial 08-28[/B]
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.
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[B]Islander 8.2 F4 Vial 08-31[/B]
Planted four seeds, one germinated, 25%, planted in ground 7/26.
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These guys will have to really put the pedal to the metal if they are to have ripe fruit by first frost.

hill60 August 21, 2009 11:01 AM

My peppers are either ready to be picked or very close. I'm not sure at what stage peppers are picked when harvesting for seeds. With tomatoes they can be picked after first blush. Is this the same for peppers or do they need to fully mature on the plant.

Thanks Hill60

rutabagaboy August 25, 2009 04:51 PM

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[B]Islander plant 2.2[/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18

August 25, 2009

Craig, you'll enjoy this:


Plant 1: Still purple
Plant 2: Still purple
Plant 3: Still purple
Plant 4: Ripened to red, seed saved. Currently no fruit, no flowers
Plant 5: [COLOR=red]Seems to be ripening to red[/COLOR]
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Plant 6: [COLOR=darkorange]Seems to be ripening to gold[/COLOR]
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Plant 7: Hot Cross, nice display
Plant 8: Still purple

rutabagaboy August 30, 2009 06:38 PM

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[B]Islander plant 2.2[/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18

August 30, 2009


Plant 1: [COLOR=#ff8c00]Seems to be ripening to gold[/COLOR]
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Plant 2: Still [COLOR=purple]purple[/COLOR]
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Plant 3: [COLOR=darkorange]Seems to be ripening to gold[/COLOR]
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Plant 4: Ripened to red, seed saved. Currently has buds.
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Plant 5: [COLOR=red]Seems to be ripening to red[/COLOR]
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Plant 6: [COLOR=darkorange]Seems to be ripening to gold[/COLOR]
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Plant 7: Hot Cross, see all the pretty peppers - [COLOR=purple]purple[/COLOR], [COLOR=wheat]yellow[/COLOR], [COLOR=darkorange]orange[/COLOR] and [COLOR=red]red[/COLOR].
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Plant 8: Still mainly [COLOR=purple]purple[/COLOR]
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rutabagaboy September 1, 2009 06:18 PM

I'm so confused...
 
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[B][COLOR=red]Islander plant 2.2[/COLOR][/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18

September 1, 2009

Here's a twist. Two days ago I posted photos of the plants in this series and I noted that Plant 5 appeared to be turning [COLOR=red]red[/COLOR][COLOR=black], while Plant 6 appeared to be turning [/COLOR][COLOR=sandybrown]Gold[COLOR=black]. [/COLOR][/COLOR]

[COLOR=sandybrown][COLOR=black]Well, today I took these photos which show that Plant 6 isn't stopping at Gold and could be going to red as well![/COLOR][/COLOR]

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Plant 5, August 30~~~~~~Plant 6, August 30

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Plants 5 and 6, September 1

rutabagaboy September 3, 2009 07:01 PM

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[COLOR=black][B][COLOR=red]Islander plant 2.2[/COLOR][/B], F4 seed, vial 08-18[/COLOR]

September 3

It is possible that the color transformation of Plants 5 and 6 is not complete, but I picked the ripest fruit of each today because the skin of the peppers is starting to wrinkle.

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Plant 5, Plant 6

As mentioned in the prior post, Plant 6 did not stop at gold. It went on to a very deep orange, almost red and almost as deep as Plant 5. Neither is as red as parts of the fruit on Plant 4 became. Plant 4's fruit did not ripen fully because I picked them early to prevent them from being completely consumed by sun scald. That plant is blooming again and will likely have another shot a fully ripe fruit.

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Plant 4

Seed now saved for Plants 4, 5 and 6.

All plant are now protected from direct sun by four layers of sheer drape material.


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