I bet Steens Syrup would be a good refined sugar replacement and more than likely what traditional tomato jam was sweetened with.
Steens cane syrup is sugar cane juice cooked down and is all natural.
I keep it at the house all of the time.
If you have never had pure cane syrup before go buy some you are in for a real treat.
I was raised on it.
I haven't had good tomato or fig preserves since I left home.
My moms was caramelized a wee bit.
The stuff in the store tastes like something McDonald's would sell.

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[QUOTE=Worth1;507103]I bet Steens Syrup would be a good refined sugar replacement and more than likely what traditional tomato jam was sweetened with.
Steens cane syrup is sugar cane juice cooked down and is all natural.
I keep it at the house all of the time.
If you have never had pure cane syrup before go buy some you are in for a real treat.
I was raised on it.
I haven't had good tomato or fig preserves since I left home.
My moms was caramelized a wee bit.
The stuff in the store tastes like something McDonald's would sell.

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This is my favourite :
[url]http://www.lylesgoldensyrup.com/our-story/[/url]

[QUOTE=Zenbaas;507104]This is my favourite :
[URL]http://www.lylesgoldensyrup.com/our-story/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yep pretty much the same products.
I have asked dozens of people from the northern or western US and they have sworn they have no idea what this stuff is and have never heard of any of it.
Not even molasses or dark treacle as you would call it.

What happened?:(

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[QUOTE=Worth1;507105]Yep pretty much the same products.
I have asked dozens of people from the northern or western US and they have sworn they have no idea what this stuff is and have never heard of any of it.
Not even molasses or dark treacle as you would call it.

What happened?:(

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I grew up on Lyles syrup but also got a mouth full of molasses every morning from my mom because it is "good" for you :D It's a taste you never really forget.

[QUOTE=Zenbaas;507106]I grew up on Lyles syrup but also got a mouth full of molasses every morning from my mom because it is "good" for you :D It's a taste you never really forget.[/QUOTE]

Molasses is a super food and should be part of everyone's daily intake.
Three of the things I got to eat and drink when growing up was red wine coffee and molasses.
Our well water was high in minerals like iron and calcium.
We ate cold tomatoes and macaroni almost every day of the year.
My after school snack was a hot pepper and jam sandwich, every day.
After that I would go outside and split wood for the stove while my mom and dad fed the rabbits, pigs and chickens.
Then it was off with my dad to feed the cows while my mother cooked supper.

Then there was the jam and preserve trading that went on.
We might put up 50 pints of tomato preserves but only eat 25.
The other 25 would be traded for something we didn't put up or do like wine or something else.
It wasn't even what you would call a trade it was more like a giving.
You would give and you would get something back later.

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I've never heard of that kind of syrup. Is it a Southern thing? Would love to be involved in a trading/barter situation. There is so much produce in the summer here that people pretty much just give it away to anyone who will take it. We really are blessed with abundance here in Oregon, esp fruit.

I finally made the tomato jam that I posted here. I was surprised as it doesn't really taste like tomatoes, more like peach or apple pie jam. Thinking of maybe trying it with the low sugar pectin or infusing some hot pepper flavor into it.

[QUOTE=coronabarb;507125]I've never heard of that kind of syrup. Is it a Southern thing? Would love to be involved in a trading/barter situation. There is so much produce in the summer here that people pretty much just give it away to anyone who will take it. We really are blessed with abundance here in Oregon, esp fruit.

I finally made the tomato jam that I posted here. I was surprised as it doesn't really taste like tomatoes, more like peach or apple pie jam. Thinking of maybe trying it with the low sugar pectin or infusing some hot pepper flavor into it.[/QUOTE]


Barb I guess it is.
It is made in Abbeville LA this and the surrounding area is the home place of some of my best friends now and in the past.
Also one of the few places at the time sugar cane could be grown in the US.
Many of which worked in the Tabasco Pepper sauce plant right down the road.
Others on the sugar cane plantations.

Even in the Marines we stuck together and distanced ourselves from other people sometimes.
Mostly because we got made fun of for our dress and our ways.
It is very complicated.:)

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Don't know why I all ways thought sugar can was such a common thing. When we go visit my folks by the coast we always go grab a few pieces of sugar cane to chew on. Nice and Sweet!

[QUOTE=Zenbaas;507132]Don't know why I all ways thought sugar can was such a common thing. When we go visit my folks by the coast we always go grab a few pieces of sugar cane to chew on. Nice and Sweet![/QUOTE]

I could go on and on about sugar cane and its history from hundreds of years ago.
In many ways it defined the very way we are today.
It is today one of the most economically important crops there is.
More sugar can is grown in the world than any other crop.
One of our neighbors when I lived in Oklahoma grew what they call sweet sorghum.
He would harvest it and run it through a mule drawn 3 cylinder mill in his front yard.
Then cook it down and sell it to the neighbors.
I know for a fact that I have eaten the sorghum syrup he made some 27 years later.
Stored in jars in the cupboard.

It was a sad day when I used up the last jar.:(
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Had to look up Steens syrop. Ukraine produces sugar from sugar beets.
I do love molasses but adding it to cooking needs to be done carefully due to strong taste. I have a gallon unsulfured for my garden needs.
Happens that I got natural unprocessed honey from Altai Mountains/ Bashkiria/ at local store, anyone who grew on US honey did not like it, but it was a real deal honey opposed to sugar water fed, heated extraction US one. Go figure.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJ9aNC_SJg0[/url]

I was born in Florida...that's as Southern as I get ;-) I've learned to love greens since I started growing them myself. Lindalana, I have friends in a cold high desert part of Oregon who don't have much in the way of flowering plants in their parts. They do feed their bees. The honey I've gotten from them is very pale and no flavor. No me gusto.

Southern Florida is mostly northern and northern Florida is mostly southern central Florida is all mixed up.:lol::P

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I have used molasses in a mixture for fertilizing tomatoes. Love the smell of molasses!

Guys I cannot express to you how good 100% pure Steens cane syrup is, either find it at the store or buy it on line and give it a try.
There is no comparison between it and corn syrup.
I opened a can the other day and cut my tongue licking the lid it is so good.

It tastes nothing like molasses.
You could call it the maple syrup of the south.:lol:
It is about as natural of a syrup you can buy all it is is boiled down cane juice.

I bet they have cane syrup fountains in heaven.:yes:

Karo corn syrup started out with no HFC's in it then they started adding it and now they have stopped due to demand and complaints from people.
Dark Karo has refiners syrup in it which comes from sugar cane.
Light Karo has vanilla in it.

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